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I find this headline to be pretty misleading. * It doesn't find anything to suggest Autopilot is less safe than claimed. It finds reasons to believe Autopilot'

I find this headline to be pretty misleading. * It doesn't find anything to suggest Autopilot is less safe than claimed. It finds reasons to believe Autopilot's improvement on safety relative to humans is less than claimed * Under both the road adjusted model; and the road+age adjusted model, Autopilot outperforms the average driver on average. Not by much, but its there. * Everyone here seems to be assuming that the takeaway is that Autopilot is less safe than humans, but there's no evidence for that. If the numbers here are to be believed, I would take it as a good sign for tesla, and by definition an advantage to people who are otherwise poor drivers? * Question: Why do crashes per million miles have such large swings in the baseline? It's weird that it varies so heavily by quarter without any obvious seasonal patterns to me. edit: mildly annoyed at getting downvoted for seeming to be the only person here noting that the blue line is on average below the red line on every chart shown.

dboreham 5y ago
Perhaps the downvotes are because most people would be apprehensive about putting their life in the hands of an "average" safe driver that's built from software? I probably wouldn't allow any other average safe human to drive me, if the alternative of me driving myself is available.
- spywaregorilla 5y ago
  You never take ubers on the grounds of safety? Because that is, on average, an average human. Either way, I'm not too impressed. I wouldn't purchase Autopilot personally for similar safety reasons. But let's not twist the stats to suggest they're actually much worse than they are.
  - tim333 5y ago
    It's not actually. If you look at the stats professional drivers crash far less than the average driver per mile. More experienced, not drunk etc.
- natch 5y ago
  You aren't putting your life in the hands of autopilot though. Your own hands are literally on the wheel and you remain responsible and capable. Obviously there are times when driving without it is way more fun. It's not like that option is taken away from you.
leobg 5y ago
You’ve been commenting on a tweet by Edward Niedermeyer. The guy who created a site called “Tesla Death Watch” back in 2008. These downvotes have got nothing to do with you or with what you pointed out. Just some people here with sour grapes.

dboreham 5y ago

Perhaps the downvotes are because most people would be apprehensive about putting their life in the hands of an "average" safe driver that's built from software? I probably wouldn't allow any other average safe human to drive me, if the alternative of me driving myself is available.

spywaregorilla 5y ago
You never take ubers on the grounds of safety? Because that is, on average, an average human. Either way, I'm not too impressed. I wouldn't purchase Autopilot personally for similar safety reasons. But let's not twist the stats to suggest they're actually much worse than they are.
- tim333 5y ago
  It's not actually. If you look at the stats professional drivers crash far less than the average driver per mile. More experienced, not drunk etc.
natch 5y ago
You aren't putting your life in the hands of autopilot though. Your own hands are literally on the wheel and you remain responsible and capable. Obviously there are times when driving without it is way more fun. It's not like that option is taken away from you.

leobg 5y ago

You’ve been commenting on a tweet by Edward Niedermeyer. The guy who created a site called “Tesla Death Watch” back in 2008. These downvotes have got nothing to do with you or with what you pointed out. Just some people here with sour grapes.