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I must be lucky then because I have lot of Zigbee and Zwave devices all running Transmitting to Nortek GoControl USB stick attached to a rPI running Home Assist

by syshum 5y ago

I must be lucky then because I have lot of Zigbee and Zwave devices all running Transmitting to Nortek GoControl USB stick attached to a rPI running Home Assistant. I have several vendors of both Zwave and Zigbee Sensors, HVAC thermostat, Bulbs, Switches, etc.. All of them play nice with each other, and FAR FAR simpler to setup than WiFi which often requires the use of some weird mobile app, and play hopsotch with the networks.. Zigbee I just pair them to the GoControl and it is done hell I even bought some no name used Door Sensors off ebay that were Zigbee, I mainly use them for Temp monitoring in various places.. They had no problem connecting to my network either

nomel 5y ago
Yes, but you are not the average consumer, who is making Wi-Fi popular. > all running Transmitting to Nortek GoControl USB stick attached to a rPI running Home Assistant > and FAR FAR simpler to setup than WiFi These two sentences are absolutely silly, for that average consumer. An average consumer can install a proprietary app in a few minutes and is totally uninterested in installing operating systems on little computers.
- syshum 5y ago
  Before I moved to HA, I was in the smart-things Ecosystem That was also very easy out of the box, far easier than WiFi Device I am not sure why you are doubling down on WiFi being easier, it is not The reason these companies are going for WiFi is because they want to Lock People into continue Telemetry being sent to the cloud, not local hubs. It has nothing to do with ease of access, or consumer friendly and everything to do with Lock in, and Privacy violating data collection
  - nomel 5y ago
    > Before I moved to HA, I was in the smart-things Ecosystem. That was also very easy out of the box, far easier than WiFi Device No offense, but I think you've already proved that your perspective is a bit skewed towards the technical. I don't understand how buying and installing a hub, then installing an app to connect with that hub, and then using that app to pair is somehow easier than installing and app, and then using that app to pair. > It has nothing to do with ease of access... Looking at Amazon, I'm seeing many times the reviews for WiFi smart switches. This would make it appear that people are purchasing them. Why? Are they already locked in? My theory is that people see the product description, see WiFi, and say "I have that!". People see Zigbee or "hub" and say "I don't have that, it's $50 more!". If we could do a word count for "incompatible" between the two, I'm sure it would be many times lower for WiFi devices. I know I see that word often when I look through Z-Wave and Zigbee reviews.

by syshum 5y ago

nomel 5y ago

Yes, but you are not the average consumer, who is making Wi-Fi popular. > all running Transmitting to Nortek GoControl USB stick attached to a rPI running Home Assistant > and FAR FAR simpler to setup than WiFi These two sentences are absolutely silly, for that average consumer. An average consumer can install a proprietary app in a few minutes and is totally uninterested in installing operating systems on little computers.

syshum 5y ago
Before I moved to HA, I was in the smart-things Ecosystem That was also very easy out of the box, far easier than WiFi Device I am not sure why you are doubling down on WiFi being easier, it is not The reason these companies are going for WiFi is because they want to Lock People into continue Telemetry being sent to the cloud, not local hubs. It has nothing to do with ease of access, or consumer friendly and everything to do with Lock in, and Privacy violating data collection
- nomel 5y ago
  > Before I moved to HA, I was in the smart-things Ecosystem. That was also very easy out of the box, far easier than WiFi Device No offense, but I think you've already proved that your perspective is a bit skewed towards the technical. I don't understand how buying and installing a hub, then installing an app to connect with that hub, and then using that app to pair is somehow easier than installing and app, and then using that app to pair. > It has nothing to do with ease of access... Looking at Amazon, I'm seeing many times the reviews for WiFi smart switches. This would make it appear that people are purchasing them. Why? Are they already locked in? My theory is that people see the product description, see WiFi, and say "I have that!". People see Zigbee or "hub" and say "I don't have that, it's $50 more!". If we could do a word count for "incompatible" between the two, I'm sure it would be many times lower for WiFi devices. I know I see that word often when I look through Z-Wave and Zigbee reviews.