Sure, but you're talking to someone who doesn't believe in "true" FSD inside the next 10 years. I suspect Tesla will be forced to stick with an ever improving F

Sure, but you're talking to someone who doesn't believe in "true" FSD inside the next 10 years. I suspect Tesla will be forced to stick with an ever improving FSD-lite that still needs to be monitored. Which (in my own use case) is actually less than pointless ... you lose the joy of actual driving, to become a supervisor of your car. There is still value in lane assist on motorways and cruise control, but we have that anyway. The difference is all other car manufacturers haven't been selling FSD and robotaxis as "right around the corner" for the last few years. I understand the development problems and overambitious deadlines ... but if you took away the ebullient narrative and put just the facts on paper, I wouldn't be able to distinguish what's gone one from fraud.