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> People who now pay almost no taxes and choose not to buy health insurance because they can’t afford it I guess that's one way to phrase "are completely price

> People who now pay almost no taxes and choose not to buy health insurance because they can’t afford it I guess that's one way to phrase "are completely priced out of something guaranteed as a human right in pretty much every civilized country". A good friend of mine is in this situation, and I have a very low tolerance for the attitude of the "fuck poor people because I don't like taxes" crowd.

colechristensen 5y ago
It's market forces at work. When most people in a certain situation neglect a cost so they can afford everything else in their lives, everything else has a tendency to raise prices to eat up all of their income anyway. It comes down to most people paying a lot of money for rent and not being able to afford other things like healthcare. Well rent is that high because enough people neglected to pay for healthcare that the competition for space made rent go up. I live in a place where low income people have a whole lot of access though the state to get low or zero cost health insurance which is very good. My taxes pay for that and I have no problem with it. A lot of the states that don't have such nice programs are largely run by parties strongly favored by the low income population so I'm not really sure this is my fault now. People don't want these solutions, especially the political parties of the people who would benefit the most from single payer. If tried it will lose elections. The things which could win elections are pragmatic measures to address the biggest cost excesses in medicine individually, but people are pretty dumb and tend not to rally for a large number of incremental improvements instead pretending that one big solution will definitely solve their problems and not just add new, different, and perhaps bigger ones.
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colechristensen 5y ago

It's market forces at work. When most people in a certain situation neglect a cost so they can afford everything else in their lives, everything else has a tendency to raise prices to eat up all of their income anyway. It comes down to most people paying a lot of money for rent and not being able to afford other things like healthcare. Well rent is that high because enough people neglected to pay for healthcare that the competition for space made rent go up. I live in a place where low income people have a whole lot of access though the state to get low or zero cost health insurance which is very good. My taxes pay for that and I have no problem with it. A lot of the states that don't have such nice programs are largely run by parties strongly favored by the low income population so I'm not really sure this is my fault now. People don't want these solutions, especially the political parties of the people who would benefit the most from single payer. If tried it will lose elections. The things which could win elections are pragmatic measures to address the biggest cost excesses in medicine individually, but people are pretty dumb and tend not to rally for a large number of incremental improvements instead pretending that one big solution will definitely solve their problems and not just add new, different, and perhaps bigger ones.

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