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I don't know (or care much) about the details of Canadian politics but these complaints sound like BS from my perspective. E.g., if a group uses a statue to pr
by jmull 5y ago
I don't know (or care much) about the details of Canadian politics but these complaints sound like BS from my perspective.
E.g., if a group uses a statue to promote their cause -- probably specifically because people care about the subject -- is it fair to complain that people don't like it? As if they are entitled to positive attention for associating themselves with the statue, but somehow should be exempted from the negative attention? It makes no sense.
More laughable is the suggestion that it's unfair to believe protesters are associating themselves with Nazism when they use the swastika as a protest symbol. Maybe they just think it's a cool symbol, like sewing kid in the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode?
And the complaints about the narrative sound like a guy aggrieved that gravity is trying to hold him down! Narratives will emerge from a movement (unless it's simply ignored). That an unfocused movement with disparate groups/motives/goals, without strong leadership won't produce and sustain a focused, favorable narrative seems like a foregone conclusion. If your movement doesn't craft the dominant narrative, then someone else will. Can you really expect them to craft just the one you wanted? That's hopeless.
I think this guy is yelling at the clouds.
- defaultprimate 5y ago
- dang 5y ago"Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that."" Also, please don't cross into personal attack. You can make your substantive points without that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- jmull 5y agoThe swastika is a very, very powerful symbol, and a very, very dangerous one. If you use it, you might as well be lighting a stick of dynamite. When it blows up -- you understand that it will blow up, right? -- and hurts you, that's on you. Not the news media for failing to carefully direct the blast in a direction you think (but not necessarily everyone who used it thinks) they should. > the homogeneous, empty-headed masses Well, this is how you're characterizing the people you should be trying to persuade to your cause. That's not going to work! Here's a principle you can make a lot of hey off of: if some group seems like idiots doing something completely stupid and irrational, then it's actually probably you who isn't understanding something critical. If they aren't a group of people with literal brain damage, the problem is almost certainly that you don't understand something important about them. Dig in and find out what it is. This will pay off very substantially for you.
- defaultprimate 5y agoApply your last paragraph to your own perspective of the protestors. The hypocrisy lol.
- jmull 5y ago“No, you are!” isn’t much of an argument.
- defaultprimate 5y agoExactly, so why'd you make it?