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> Being a dad is a long, emotional, draining, and lonely journey. This is a strong, negative and questionable statement.

kylebenzle 5y ago
jcutrell 5y ago
I substituted "Being a dad _can be and commonly is_ a long, emotional, draining, and lonely journey", perhaps unfairly. This could really just be seen as an expanded version of "being a dad is hard", which some people will identify with and others won't. This is also something that could be spoken from the perspective of that person. "Being a dad is a long, emotional, draining, and lonely journey _for me_."
- pbarondadditude 5y ago
  yes, good point. I should have added "can be", and the platform currently is targeted at dads that identify with that statement.
eps 5y ago
Yep, my reaction exactly. That's a very bitter take on the fatherhood. Perhaps the context here is that of single fathers?
jacobmarble 5y ago
I agree. Being a dad is fire and ice. Some wonderful times, some hard times. Not lonely at all. I get to help good, small people become good, big people, and I grow along the way.
hughrr 5y ago
Yep. I’m a single dad of three and it’s amazing on all fronts.
andrew_ 5y ago
Agreed. Sounds like something a person would say after lamenting having children, paints fathers as helpless and pathetic. Personally, it's one the most rewarding challenges that one can step up to.
- IanCal 5y ago
  I don't agree. You yourself describe it as a challenge - if it wasn't hard it wouldn't be a challenge. Of course it's long, it's something you start often in your 20s or 30s and hopefully do for the rest of your life. Of course it's emotional. It's one of the largest life experiences many of us will go through. Of course it can be draining at times. It takes a lot out of you, and it can be hard after Painting people as helpless and pathetic because they're finding something hard and still doing it and while seeking help to improve seems ridiculous. Perhaps the issue people are having with this is that they're inserting "and not worth it" or "not rewarding" at the end, which isn't there. With "but worth it" added, would so many of you disagree?
slothtrop 5y ago
This is questionable projection for something innocuous
RHSeeger 5y ago
I think long and emotional are pretty much a given, and aren't at all negative. Draining can be seen as negative but, if you see it in the same vein as "working on complex problems all day is mentally draining" (which is how I assume it was meant), then it loses that negative connotation. That really only leaves lonely. When you consider how many moms groups there are, all boosting each other up with discussions of how wonderful they are (and, in some contexts, reassurance that they're not bad moms because of something)... dads (in general) are lonelier; they just don't have as much available support. It's not like that for all dads but, as a group trend overall, I'd say it's a fact.

kylebenzle 5y ago

jcutrell 5y ago

I substituted "Being a dad _can be and commonly is_ a long, emotional, draining, and lonely journey", perhaps unfairly. This could really just be seen as an expanded version of "being a dad is hard", which some people will identify with and others won't. This is also something that could be spoken from the perspective of that person. "Being a dad is a long, emotional, draining, and lonely journey _for me_."

pbarondadditude 5y ago
yes, good point. I should have added "can be", and the platform currently is targeted at dads that identify with that statement.

eps 5y ago

Yep, my reaction exactly. That's a very bitter take on the fatherhood. Perhaps the context here is that of single fathers?

jacobmarble 5y ago

I agree. Being a dad is fire and ice. Some wonderful times, some hard times. Not lonely at all. I get to help good, small people become good, big people, and I grow along the way.

hughrr 5y ago

Yep. I’m a single dad of three and it’s amazing on all fronts.

andrew_ 5y ago

Agreed. Sounds like something a person would say after lamenting having children, paints fathers as helpless and pathetic. Personally, it's one the most rewarding challenges that one can step up to.

IanCal 5y ago
I don't agree. You yourself describe it as a challenge - if it wasn't hard it wouldn't be a challenge. Of course it's long, it's something you start often in your 20s or 30s and hopefully do for the rest of your life. Of course it's emotional. It's one of the largest life experiences many of us will go through. Of course it can be draining at times. It takes a lot out of you, and it can be hard after Painting people as helpless and pathetic because they're finding something hard and still doing it and while seeking help to improve seems ridiculous. Perhaps the issue people are having with this is that they're inserting "and not worth it" or "not rewarding" at the end, which isn't there. With "but worth it" added, would so many of you disagree?

slothtrop 5y ago

This is questionable projection for something innocuous

RHSeeger 5y ago

I think long and emotional are pretty much a given, and aren't at all negative. Draining can be seen as negative but, if you see it in the same vein as "working on complex problems all day is mentally draining" (which is how I assume it was meant), then it loses that negative connotation. That really only leaves lonely. When you consider how many moms groups there are, all boosting each other up with discussions of how wonderful they are (and, in some contexts, reassurance that they're not bad moms because of something)... dads (in general) are lonelier; they just don't have as much available support. It's not like that for all dads but, as a group trend overall, I'd say it's a fact.