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FSD will never work for ordinary cars in cities. But it may be good enough for self driving tanks fighting in WW4 - AD2050 That is really the only scenario whe

FSD will never work for ordinary cars in cities. But it may be good enough for self driving tanks fighting in WW4 - AD2050 That is really the only scenario where the high collateral damage won't matter. "We didn't know we where training kill-bots"

avs733 5y ago
Personal opinion...FSD won't work within the existing paradigm largely because driving is a social experience not purely a technical one. It could, and should, be made to work in CONCERT with infrastructure changes to enable and support it. All new roads should be built with systems in place to help FSD cars succeed. Infrastructure spending should be used to help fix and redesign and systematize areas where FSD cars are likely to struggle...largely (to my mind) because doing so will also improve things like pedestrian safety.
- JaimeThompson 5y ago
  I think musk would fight that as he, as of late, seems to be against such subsidies and assistance that would help firms not Tesla.
  - avs733 5y ago
    what Musk wants/will do is largely irrelevant to the eventual success of self driving vehicles. pardon the use of his pet acronym FSD but what will make the technology, not Tesla, successful is a build environment that a car can interact with more reliably as well as a car that can interrogate the built environment more effectively. Both are important. A long range RFID tag in every road sign means I don't need a camera to read it, and it can't fail in snow. Magnetic nails[1] in the highway that can aid with high speed lane positioning information absolutely beats the camera on my Volvo that struggles to see white lines when driving into the sun. [1] https://trid.trb.org/view/574206 https://trid.trb.org/view/574206
vageli 5y ago
> "We didn't know we where training kill-bots" We knew all along. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge_(2004) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge_(2004)
bagels 5y ago
The cruise control does not even work in these cars.

avs733 5y ago

Personal opinion...FSD won't work within the existing paradigm largely because driving is a social experience not purely a technical one. It could, and should, be made to work in CONCERT with infrastructure changes to enable and support it. All new roads should be built with systems in place to help FSD cars succeed. Infrastructure spending should be used to help fix and redesign and systematize areas where FSD cars are likely to struggle...largely (to my mind) because doing so will also improve things like pedestrian safety.

JaimeThompson 5y ago
I think musk would fight that as he, as of late, seems to be against such subsidies and assistance that would help firms not Tesla.
- avs733 5y ago
  what Musk wants/will do is largely irrelevant to the eventual success of self driving vehicles. pardon the use of his pet acronym FSD but what will make the technology, not Tesla, successful is a build environment that a car can interact with more reliably as well as a car that can interrogate the built environment more effectively. Both are important. A long range RFID tag in every road sign means I don't need a camera to read it, and it can't fail in snow. Magnetic nails[1] in the highway that can aid with high speed lane positioning information absolutely beats the camera on my Volvo that struggles to see white lines when driving into the sun. [1] https://trid.trb.org/view/574206 https://trid.trb.org/view/574206

vageli 5y ago

> "We didn't know we where training kill-bots" We knew all along. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge_(2004) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge_(2004)

bagels 5y ago

The cruise control does not even work in these cars.