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The entire ISS could be launched in 3, maybe 4 SpaceX Starship launches assuming Elon is correct about his claims for the payload. To put in in perspective, th

The entire ISS could be launched in 3, maybe 4 SpaceX Starship launches assuming Elon is correct about his claims for the payload. To put in in perspective, the ISS required 36 Space Shuttle launches at a cost of $1.5B per launch ($54B). For that cost, assuming a pessimistic cost for Starship of $10M per launch (5,400/4 launches), you could launch 1,350 International Space Stations for the same price as the ISS cost to launch flying on the shuttle. To me it sounds not only realistic that we would launch a replacement but surpass it by 100x or 1000x.

WarChortle 5y ago
We have come a long way from the late 90s and early 2000s when ISS was built. If NASA was properly funded I'm sure it would also be able to build a competing station cheaper/easier as well. ISS and NASA paved the way for SpaceX. So them being to do it cheaper isn't as impressive as it was bound to happen.
CookiesOnMyDesk 5y ago
That would also be the first time Elon is correct about his claims, then.
- Fatnino 5y ago
  His claims about falcon 9 mostly line up with reality.
rtkwe 5y ago
Launching isn't the only thing you need to do to build a replacement, there's building it twice: once on Earth and again in space. The ISS was assembled largely by hand by astronauts working out of the Space Shuttle which has an airlock that none of the current capsules have so they'll have to work out of a seed station launched in a single go or we'll have to wait for a crew Starship. That's a long ways off even if you don't account for Musk's habit of promising things are coming soon.
mdorazio 5y ago
The cost of the ISS was not just the launches. The modules themselves were massively expensive to design, build, and test before they ever made it into a payload bay. For example, the Tranquility + Cupola modules together cost $400M just to build. This wouldn’t change that much just because the launch costs go down, even with newer tech (Bigelow modules would still cost on the order of $100M a pop). If you want to put humans in space for long periods of time without killing them, the things you put them into are going to be complex and expensive. To me it would make a lot more sense to boost the ISS to a higher orbit so future industry can repurpose the materials on it, rather than throw the entire thing away because it’s old.

WarChortle 5y ago

We have come a long way from the late 90s and early 2000s when ISS was built. If NASA was properly funded I'm sure it would also be able to build a competing station cheaper/easier as well. ISS and NASA paved the way for SpaceX. So them being to do it cheaper isn't as impressive as it was bound to happen.

CookiesOnMyDesk 5y ago

That would also be the first time Elon is correct about his claims, then.

Fatnino 5y ago
His claims about falcon 9 mostly line up with reality.

rtkwe 5y ago

Launching isn't the only thing you need to do to build a replacement, there's building it twice: once on Earth and again in space. The ISS was assembled largely by hand by astronauts working out of the Space Shuttle which has an airlock that none of the current capsules have so they'll have to work out of a seed station launched in a single go or we'll have to wait for a crew Starship. That's a long ways off even if you don't account for Musk's habit of promising things are coming soon.

mdorazio 5y ago

The cost of the ISS was not just the launches. The modules themselves were massively expensive to design, build, and test before they ever made it into a payload bay. For example, the Tranquility + Cupola modules together cost $400M just to build. This wouldn’t change that much just because the launch costs go down, even with newer tech (Bigelow modules would still cost on the order of $100M a pop). If you want to put humans in space for long periods of time without killing them, the things you put them into are going to be complex and expensive. To me it would make a lot more sense to boost the ISS to a higher orbit so future industry can repurpose the materials on it, rather than throw the entire thing away because it’s old.