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This is a fantastic idea, and I have enjoyed following it. I just hope Dan knows that there are lots of people who put in 10,000 hours and don't make it to the

This is a fantastic idea, and I have enjoyed following it. I just hope Dan knows that there are lots of people who put in 10,000 hours and don't make it to the highest level (sports, music, math, art, anything...), despite becoming veritable masters. Its always a suprise how many people are amazingly good at something, without being the best or among the best. In my experience, there are such things as innate gifts. But hey, maybe I'm wrong! I hope so :) Makes this project that much more interesting.

roel_v 15y ago
Worth to note that it's not about 10000 hours, it's about 10000 hours of deliberate practice. The amount of people who do that is far smaller.
- praptak 15y ago
  Even if it wasn't he still has one important thing under his belt: a conscious decision to go on for the 10000 hours, made before he even started practicing. This is, as far as I know, rather unique.
  - ellyagg 15y ago
    It's unique now, but people are cost/benefits calculators. Right now, most people do not think that they could become among the best at something through a definite and discrete amount and type of training. If someone succeeds in a highly public way, it will adjust many more peoples' cost/benefits calculations.
- losvedir 15y ago
  The other caveat is that you need that much practice to become an "expert". It's not clear to me exactly what "expert" means, but it can't be relative to others because others could just as easily put in 10,000 hours of deliberate practice. So at the end of all this, he could end up a magnificent golfer, but still not win any PGA tours because the other golfers there are also magnificent players. I still have high hopes for him, though, and can't wait to see how it ends up!
  - Fliko 15y ago
    From my understanding the level that you supposedly reach at 10,000 hours is virtuoso.
- rubashov 15y ago
  This is why the "10,000 hours" thing is stupid. It's unfalsifiable. If this guy fails people will just make various excuses like "his practice wasn't 'deliberate'."
  - ctdonath 15y ago
    No, it's pretty clear (if you've been following this story) that this guy is being about as deliberate as anyone can be within reason. If he fails, the "10,000 hours" claim will indeed be in serious jeopardy. One data point, sure, but if the first data point is hard-won and correlates to "theory==wrong", few will take it seriously enough to make the second data point happen.
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  - felipemnoa 15y ago
    Is a rule of thumb, not a hard rule.

roel_v 15y ago

Worth to note that it's not about 10000 hours, it's about 10000 hours of deliberate practice. The amount of people who do that is far smaller.

praptak 15y ago
Even if it wasn't he still has one important thing under his belt: a conscious decision to go on for the 10000 hours, made before he even started practicing. This is, as far as I know, rather unique.
- ellyagg 15y ago
  It's unique now, but people are cost/benefits calculators. Right now, most people do not think that they could become among the best at something through a definite and discrete amount and type of training. If someone succeeds in a highly public way, it will adjust many more peoples' cost/benefits calculations.
losvedir 15y ago
The other caveat is that you need that much practice to become an "expert". It's not clear to me exactly what "expert" means, but it can't be relative to others because others could just as easily put in 10,000 hours of deliberate practice. So at the end of all this, he could end up a magnificent golfer, but still not win any PGA tours because the other golfers there are also magnificent players. I still have high hopes for him, though, and can't wait to see how it ends up!
- Fliko 15y ago
  From my understanding the level that you supposedly reach at 10,000 hours is virtuoso.
rubashov 15y ago
This is why the "10,000 hours" thing is stupid. It's unfalsifiable. If this guy fails people will just make various excuses like "his practice wasn't 'deliberate'."
- ctdonath 15y ago
  No, it's pretty clear (if you've been following this story) that this guy is being about as deliberate as anyone can be within reason. If he fails, the "10,000 hours" claim will indeed be in serious jeopardy. One data point, sure, but if the first data point is hard-won and correlates to "theory==wrong", few will take it seriously enough to make the second data point happen.
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- felipemnoa 15y ago
  Is a rule of thumb, not a hard rule.