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NGOs also don't need to do anything. Nobody has to do anything. You don't have to reply to my comments. I don't need to reply to yours. I don't need to explain

NGOs also don't need to do anything. Nobody has to do anything. You don't have to reply to my comments. I don't need to reply to yours. I don't need to explain simple corporate responsibility to not enable dictatorships to easily target people to you. I'm not an NGO. I guess the lesson that I've learnt is that there's always a gormless oddball on HN that attempts to instigate an irrelevant argument. Unfortunately, it's a heavy price I continue to pay. Hasn't stuck yet :(

BiteCode_dev 5y ago
There is no need for insults. The argument is only irrelevant if you consider the matter solved. But it's not. You still think "Twitter should do something", like if 30 years of big IT corporation behavior history hasn't proven it's wishful thinking. What we need is keeping educating people to not use those platforms for anything that requires privacy, to not give all their data to GAFAM and make safe systems more user friendly and ubiquitous. So that it doesn't stay in the HN bubble. This is not wishful thinking, as people around me are asking me more and more about privacy. Last month, my little bro told me to switch to encrypted channels to talk to him, for something I though was overkill. He is not in IT. It's a slow process, but so is teaching everyone to read. In that regards, having such argument is a good thing, since that, even in HN, it's a healthy way to discussing between people tech saavy what we could prioritize as a community. I assume, that, since we are discussing it, some of us are interested in the problem and our role in it.
- smashah 5y ago
  The logistics and practicality of teaching whole swathes of a population living under a US-backed dictatorship how to make sure they have secure means of communication arouses more suspicion than just using twitter, where everyone is already. Getting caught with technical and secure means of communication can be used as evidence in witch hunts. Having Twitter installed, on the other hand is not. Let the chickens hide in plain sight, just don't advertise their information to the wolves. I don't work at Twitter which is why I'm doing what I can by bringing it up here so someone at Twitter can do something about it. One way to make sure this problem doesn't get solved is to say things like "Twitter is a private company they don't owe anyone anything". Maybe if we as a community stood together to demand these features of big companies then they would consider it a must-do. Cynicism, no matter how valid (very, extremely, enormously valid) is not a reason to let these big Co's relax for even one moment in the pursuit to protect its users.

BiteCode_dev 5y ago

There is no need for insults. The argument is only irrelevant if you consider the matter solved. But it's not. You still think "Twitter should do something", like if 30 years of big IT corporation behavior history hasn't proven it's wishful thinking. What we need is keeping educating people to not use those platforms for anything that requires privacy, to not give all their data to GAFAM and make safe systems more user friendly and ubiquitous. So that it doesn't stay in the HN bubble. This is not wishful thinking, as people around me are asking me more and more about privacy. Last month, my little bro told me to switch to encrypted channels to talk to him, for something I though was overkill. He is not in IT. It's a slow process, but so is teaching everyone to read. In that regards, having such argument is a good thing, since that, even in HN, it's a healthy way to discussing between people tech saavy what we could prioritize as a community. I assume, that, since we are discussing it, some of us are interested in the problem and our role in it.

smashah 5y ago
The logistics and practicality of teaching whole swathes of a population living under a US-backed dictatorship how to make sure they have secure means of communication arouses more suspicion than just using twitter, where everyone is already. Getting caught with technical and secure means of communication can be used as evidence in witch hunts. Having Twitter installed, on the other hand is not. Let the chickens hide in plain sight, just don't advertise their information to the wolves. I don't work at Twitter which is why I'm doing what I can by bringing it up here so someone at Twitter can do something about it. One way to make sure this problem doesn't get solved is to say things like "Twitter is a private company they don't owe anyone anything". Maybe if we as a community stood together to demand these features of big companies then they would consider it a must-do. Cynicism, no matter how valid (very, extremely, enormously valid) is not a reason to let these big Co's relax for even one moment in the pursuit to protect its users.