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> The issue is that if you’re developing like this on WP you don’t gain much from it except the ability to use a select few plugins and an admin UI. At this poi
by gnz11 5y ago
> The issue is that if you’re developing like this on WP you don’t gain much from it except the ability to use a select few plugins and an admin UI. At this point why not use a solid PHP framework like Laravel?
Agreed, if you have a dedicated engineering team, but most non-tech companies that need basic websites don't...so in that context, Wordpress's admin UI is a big gain. It's familiar to users and provides media management functionality out of the box. The vast majority of CMSs have terrible/non-intuitive admin UIs and limited functionality. Leaving aside Gutenberg and the rest of the garbage pile that is Wordpress, the admin is the primary selling point of Wordpress IMO.
- taubek 5y agoI can tell you that new users like Gutenberg. It is us, the old shortcode style users, that have/had a problem with it. It took me some time to switch to it but I must say that I like it now. Things like copy/paste from Google docs with keeping all of relevant the styles and links works. And I guess that a bunch of users is doing that - using WP as a platform for distribution of content.
- corobo 5y agoSeconding this, end users do seem to like how much they can do themselves with it Especially when you add custom blocks specific to their site needs
- IncRnd 5y agoIt's not just shortcode using admins who don't want to use Gutenberg. There are many people who have used any one of various visual composers for years. They generally don't have the time or inclination to learn a new workflow that doesn't support what they already do. Having a classic editor plugin has nothing to do with characterizing people as crufty throwbacks who can't learn new things. Many people are in the business of their business and don't care to learn the next new-greatest-software every few months.
- taubek 5y agoYes, I get it. I've used Elementor, DIVI, Beaver Builder, WPBakery , ... And I always hated when I had to switch to a new builder for some new project.