Anecdotally, we're on hacker news, none of us should be that removed from hackathons where mid 20 year olds stay up if not all night until 2am and start by 8.

Anecdotally, we're on hacker news, none of us should be that removed from hackathons where mid 20 year olds stay up if not all night until 2am and start by 8. Anecdotally, at 35 I still sometimes wake up at 2 and stay up until sunrise thinking of cool new ideas.