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It's only radical because society is structured in a way that these are hard to do 1. Even if you don't drink, you need to give in sometimes for the sake of so

It's only radical because society is structured in a way that these are hard to do 1. Even if you don't drink, you need to give in sometimes for the sake of socialization 2. All cheap foods are full of sugar/carbs. If you want to eat healthy food, you either need to have access to farm or pay more. 3. Hustle culture promotes pushing yourself to the limit, sacrificing free time and sleep. 4. Technology(like dating apps) was supposed to make us more connected. But it seems that it instead did the opposite. There is much more lonely people in the world. Some of them can only turn to porn to satisfy their primal urges.

vorpalhex 5y ago
I recently quit alcohol for a few months to support someone else doing the same. I don't find I ever have to "give in". I do sometimes bring canned tea with me if I am going to a friends party. Rice, local vegetables, eggs and basic cuts of meat are all real cheap. I quit working around 5pm most days (save meetings that get scheduled late, I tend to skip those randomly). I spend my free time working on fun hobbies or reading, a bit of netflix. Porn is not de facto evil. It is a supernormal stimulus - it will drown out your sex live because porn literally pushes your biological buttons better. If you can moderate it, then great. If it's an issue, cut it out. Avoid dating apps. Spend your time doing interesting things with interesting people instead.
- xupybd 5y ago
  I would argue that a supernormal stimulus should be avoided at all costs. It messes with your reward system too much. Get your endorphins from healthy and productive activities and your life improve immensely. Video games are another for me. They give a huge sense of achievement that real world tasks struggle to complete with.
  - arepublicadoceu 5y ago
    > I would argue that a supernormal stimulus should be avoided at all costs. I don’t like these kinds of blanket statements I had friends that played WoW and were able to have a perfectly functioning life. They got great grades and had somewhat healthy social life. Unfortunately I’m not in this camp, if I play online games it will consume my life as nothing else. A better statement is: know yourself. If you have an addictive personality, stay away from supernormal stimulus. Now, If you’re blessed with genes that can regulate yourself, by all means, go ahead, play games and do whatever you like, you won the life lottery anyway.
    - vorpalhex 5y ago
      I wonder if supernormal stimuli are the same for all people. We tend to see differentiation in ideal mate selection, so it's possible we have different biological weak spots to hijack. Put another way, for some people maybe videogames are just not a supernormal stimulus. I like games but I actually struggle to rack up play time, even when I intentionally clear time to play. I just never find that reward curve, and not for lack of trying. I do wonder if some situations - games, social media, porn - are adversarial. Meaning we can view this as one party attempting to find supernormal stimulus and trick you into it, while you attempt to avoid the biological hijacking. If this is an adversarial situation than avoidance is counter-productive (you won't always win the avoidance game) and instead you need desensitization and safe guards.
BobbyJo 5y ago
> All cheap foods are full of sugar/carbs. If you want to eat healthy food, you either need to have access to farm or pay more. I don't think most people need low carb to be healthy. The hazard ratio bottoms out around a 50/50 split [0] for carb/fat intake. Oats, buckwheat, and lentils are cheap as hell and very healthy. Mix in veggies, leafy greens, and occasional meat and you can be eating healthy as hell for very cheap. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7589789/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7589789/
commoner 5y ago
> 2. All cheap foods are full of sugar/carbs. If you want to eat healthy food, you either need to have access to farm or pay more. Not necessarily! Whole grain products (like bread, pasta, and oats) and legumes tend to be cheaper per calorie and more filling than many junk foods. The cost of produce varies depending on your location, but at least in some parts of the U.S., ethnic supermarkets sell fruits and vegetables at a very low price compared to other grocery stores. For foods of animal origin, chicken products like eggs and chicken breasts tend to be more affordable than other meats in the U.S., and can be prepared in a healthy way. It does take time and effort to cook, but you save money compared to ordering from restaurants or eating pre-packaged meals, and you can be 100% confident that you are only using healthy ingredients.

vorpalhex 5y ago

I recently quit alcohol for a few months to support someone else doing the same. I don't find I ever have to "give in". I do sometimes bring canned tea with me if I am going to a friends party. Rice, local vegetables, eggs and basic cuts of meat are all real cheap. I quit working around 5pm most days (save meetings that get scheduled late, I tend to skip those randomly). I spend my free time working on fun hobbies or reading, a bit of netflix. Porn is not de facto evil. It is a supernormal stimulus - it will drown out your sex live because porn literally pushes your biological buttons better. If you can moderate it, then great. If it's an issue, cut it out. Avoid dating apps. Spend your time doing interesting things with interesting people instead.

xupybd 5y ago
I would argue that a supernormal stimulus should be avoided at all costs. It messes with your reward system too much. Get your endorphins from healthy and productive activities and your life improve immensely. Video games are another for me. They give a huge sense of achievement that real world tasks struggle to complete with.
- arepublicadoceu 5y ago
  > I would argue that a supernormal stimulus should be avoided at all costs. I don’t like these kinds of blanket statements I had friends that played WoW and were able to have a perfectly functioning life. They got great grades and had somewhat healthy social life. Unfortunately I’m not in this camp, if I play online games it will consume my life as nothing else. A better statement is: know yourself. If you have an addictive personality, stay away from supernormal stimulus. Now, If you’re blessed with genes that can regulate yourself, by all means, go ahead, play games and do whatever you like, you won the life lottery anyway.
  - vorpalhex 5y ago
    I wonder if supernormal stimuli are the same for all people. We tend to see differentiation in ideal mate selection, so it's possible we have different biological weak spots to hijack. Put another way, for some people maybe videogames are just not a supernormal stimulus. I like games but I actually struggle to rack up play time, even when I intentionally clear time to play. I just never find that reward curve, and not for lack of trying. I do wonder if some situations - games, social media, porn - are adversarial. Meaning we can view this as one party attempting to find supernormal stimulus and trick you into it, while you attempt to avoid the biological hijacking. If this is an adversarial situation than avoidance is counter-productive (you won't always win the avoidance game) and instead you need desensitization and safe guards.

BobbyJo 5y ago

> All cheap foods are full of sugar/carbs. If you want to eat healthy food, you either need to have access to farm or pay more. I don't think most people need low carb to be healthy. The hazard ratio bottoms out around a 50/50 split [0] for carb/fat intake. Oats, buckwheat, and lentils are cheap as hell and very healthy. Mix in veggies, leafy greens, and occasional meat and you can be eating healthy as hell for very cheap. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7589789/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7589789/

commoner 5y ago

> 2. All cheap foods are full of sugar/carbs. If you want to eat healthy food, you either need to have access to farm or pay more. Not necessarily! Whole grain products (like bread, pasta, and oats) and legumes tend to be cheaper per calorie and more filling than many junk foods. The cost of produce varies depending on your location, but at least in some parts of the U.S., ethnic supermarkets sell fruits and vegetables at a very low price compared to other grocery stores. For foods of animal origin, chicken products like eggs and chicken breasts tend to be more affordable than other meats in the U.S., and can be prepared in a healthy way. It does take time and effort to cook, but you save money compared to ordering from restaurants or eating pre-packaged meals, and you can be 100% confident that you are only using healthy ingredients.