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Propaganda is a strong word for truth

hunterb123 5y ago
Truth is a strong word for propaganda. Saying nonsensical responses like that is easy. In the thread I linked there is a rebuttal of Amnesty's propaganda: https://www.timesofisrael.com/lapid-attacks-delusional-amnesty-uk-ahead-of-report-accusing-israel-of-apartheid/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/lapid-attacks-delusional-amnes...
- copperwater69 5y ago
  One of the most common tactics is for Jews to point the finger at “Gentile anti-Semitism” rather than acknowledge actual Jewish behavior.
  - james-redwood 5y ago
    Coming from a person who lived for a while in South Africa as a refugee as well as worked in Israel, Israel is simply not an apartheid state. It’s more arguable that the situation in the West Bank bears some similarity, but it lacks the critical features of apartheid such as lack of governmental representation, lack of the right to vote based on race, massively disparate funding enshrined in law according to race, denial of public services due to race, etc. None of these are found in Israel, and some of them are found to a certain extent in the West Bank, but not all of them and not entirely. It’s a hip buzzword though that gets people’s attention, which is why it’s used by Palestinian activists. No one accused you of antisemitism either, and what I always find rather curious are those who almost always pre-empt their responses saying that someone will baselessly accuse them of antisemitism, when no one in fact actually does. Way to figure out how to blame Jews anyhow even when they don’t do anything. What’s more, there are literally hundreds of thousands of Jews who are ambivalent about Israel and criticise it daily, and yet you seem to put all Jews into a single monolith and claim that it’s a ‘tactic’ of theirs. Sounds eerily like Nazi era propaganda of accusing them of ‘Jewish trickery’.
    - copperwater69 5y ago
      >the critical features of apartheid such as lack of governmental representation, lack of the right to vote based on race, massively disparate funding enshrined in law according to race, denial of public services due to race, etc. None of these are found in Israel I found compelling evidence of these in the amnesty international report. >No one accused you of antisemitism either The link provided above shows the headline as "Israel blasts Amnesty UK for ‘antisemitic’ report accusing it of apartheid" >Sounds eerily like Nazi era propaganda of accusing them of ‘Jewish trickery’ I don't care what it sounds like - this is literally what it is. Imagine for a moment bringing up "blood libel" in a report on documented israeli abuse of Palestinians. It's just disgusting and zionists have gotten away with it for too long.The zionist state needs widespread condemnation and dismantling for its crimes against humanity.

Truth is a strong word for propaganda. Saying nonsensical responses like that is easy. In the thread I linked there is a rebuttal of Amnesty's propaganda: https://www.timesofisrael.com/lapid-attacks-delusional-amnesty-uk-ahead-of-report-accusing-israel-of-apartheid/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/lapid-attacks-delusional-amnes...

copperwater69 5y ago
One of the most common tactics is for Jews to point the finger at “Gentile anti-Semitism” rather than acknowledge actual Jewish behavior.
- james-redwood 5y ago
  Coming from a person who lived for a while in South Africa as a refugee as well as worked in Israel, Israel is simply not an apartheid state. It’s more arguable that the situation in the West Bank bears some similarity, but it lacks the critical features of apartheid such as lack of governmental representation, lack of the right to vote based on race, massively disparate funding enshrined in law according to race, denial of public services due to race, etc. None of these are found in Israel, and some of them are found to a certain extent in the West Bank, but not all of them and not entirely. It’s a hip buzzword though that gets people’s attention, which is why it’s used by Palestinian activists. No one accused you of antisemitism either, and what I always find rather curious are those who almost always pre-empt their responses saying that someone will baselessly accuse them of antisemitism, when no one in fact actually does. Way to figure out how to blame Jews anyhow even when they don’t do anything. What’s more, there are literally hundreds of thousands of Jews who are ambivalent about Israel and criticise it daily, and yet you seem to put all Jews into a single monolith and claim that it’s a ‘tactic’ of theirs. Sounds eerily like Nazi era propaganda of accusing them of ‘Jewish trickery’.
  - copperwater69 5y ago
    >the critical features of apartheid such as lack of governmental representation, lack of the right to vote based on race, massively disparate funding enshrined in law according to race, denial of public services due to race, etc. None of these are found in Israel I found compelling evidence of these in the amnesty international report. >No one accused you of antisemitism either The link provided above shows the headline as "Israel blasts Amnesty UK for ‘antisemitic’ report accusing it of apartheid" >Sounds eerily like Nazi era propaganda of accusing them of ‘Jewish trickery’ I don't care what it sounds like - this is literally what it is. Imagine for a moment bringing up "blood libel" in a report on documented israeli abuse of Palestinians. It's just disgusting and zionists have gotten away with it for too long.The zionist state needs widespread condemnation and dismantling for its crimes against humanity.