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It's a popular fallacy to consider the lives lost you see but not the lifetimes lost from wasteful practices. Think of the children is a nice trope to strut ar

It's a popular fallacy to consider the lives lost you see but not the lifetimes lost from wasteful practices. Think of the children is a nice trope to strut around to scared soccer moms during the elections, though. You can't make the presupposition that a rolling 'stop' is always more dangerous than a full stop, either.

acdha 5y ago
> You can't make the presupposition that a rolling 'stop' is always more dangerous than a full stop, either. Actually, you can. Drivers who roll through a stop are far more likely not to notice pedestrians, bicyclists, or often even other drivers. They’re also unpredictable since everyone else has to figure out what they’re doing and react accordingly. I see the chaos on a daily basis where everyone else has to adjust their timing – and the selfish driver almost inevitably ends up no more than one car length ahead at the next back-up. In contrast, a legal stop is easy to understand - it works just like you learned in driver’s Ed and since you can’t read another driver’s mind, you have to plan on stopping anyway.
- notch656a 5y ago
  Thankfully I design radar detectors for a living so that people like you who inevitably support insane and irrational laws, on the entirely convincing proof of just 'actually you can' and 'think of the children', have minimized impact on people like me. My whole life is making sure people such as yourself and the thieves from government cause me minimal legal hassle. So enjoy your opinion, I'll keep working to make sure your opinion has the least influence possible.
  - acdha 5y ago
    Thank you for at least being honest about your motivations. I hope you never hit someone.
    - notch656a 5y ago
      No prob. I haven't. Also I make more money the more traffic laws, enforcement, and cameras that come out (it drives consumers to seek ways to become educated about police and camera presence), so really it's in my interest to support you ironically.
      - acdha 5y ago
        I’ve known a few people with the same attitude. All but one of them was right up until the time they weren’t, and that changed a stranger’s life forever.
        notch656a 5y ago
        The 'attitude' I'm intending to express is that safety and law are not interchangeable. Sometimes they are in harmony, sometimes they are at odds, and sometimes they're simply completely separate concepts. This can vary from minute to minute, place to place, from one environmental condition to another and even from one driver to another. If how often someone gets in an accident is a guide as you're implying, well then I'm below the national average considering I'm halfway dead, I've been driving more years than not, and I'm definitely below the average person's accident rate of one per 18 years (sitting at zero).

acdha 5y ago

> You can't make the presupposition that a rolling 'stop' is always more dangerous than a full stop, either. Actually, you can. Drivers who roll through a stop are far more likely not to notice pedestrians, bicyclists, or often even other drivers. They’re also unpredictable since everyone else has to figure out what they’re doing and react accordingly. I see the chaos on a daily basis where everyone else has to adjust their timing – and the selfish driver almost inevitably ends up no more than one car length ahead at the next back-up. In contrast, a legal stop is easy to understand - it works just like you learned in driver’s Ed and since you can’t read another driver’s mind, you have to plan on stopping anyway.

notch656a 5y ago
Thankfully I design radar detectors for a living so that people like you who inevitably support insane and irrational laws, on the entirely convincing proof of just 'actually you can' and 'think of the children', have minimized impact on people like me. My whole life is making sure people such as yourself and the thieves from government cause me minimal legal hassle. So enjoy your opinion, I'll keep working to make sure your opinion has the least influence possible.
- acdha 5y ago
  Thank you for at least being honest about your motivations. I hope you never hit someone.
  - notch656a 5y ago
    No prob. I haven't. Also I make more money the more traffic laws, enforcement, and cameras that come out (it drives consumers to seek ways to become educated about police and camera presence), so really it's in my interest to support you ironically.
    - acdha 5y ago
      I’ve known a few people with the same attitude. All but one of them was right up until the time they weren’t, and that changed a stranger’s life forever.
      - notch656a 5y ago
        The 'attitude' I'm intending to express is that safety and law are not interchangeable. Sometimes they are in harmony, sometimes they are at odds, and sometimes they're simply completely separate concepts. This can vary from minute to minute, place to place, from one environmental condition to another and even from one driver to another. If how often someone gets in an accident is a guide as you're implying, well then I'm below the national average considering I'm halfway dead, I've been driving more years than not, and I'm definitely below the average person's accident rate of one per 18 years (sitting at zero).