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Maybe that nuance was originally intended, but look around and you will find plenty of claims that wearing dreadlocks, rapping or making sushi at home are examp

Maybe that nuance was originally intended, but look around and you will find plenty of claims that wearing dreadlocks, rapping or making sushi at home are examples of cultural appropriation, if done by the wrong person. Actually, that’s a good gut check to test whether emancipatory movements have lost their plot: how often do their prescriptions hinge on identity.

asdff 5y ago
It's gotten to the point where people are even criticized for tanning too much beyond what is supposedly acceptable for their identity.
- JohnBooty 5y ago
  That's a pretty fringe outlook. A good piece of advice would be: Every belief, good or bad, has a lunatic fringe that takes that belief to some stupid extreme. If we judge every belief by its most deluded lunatic fringe, then we would be forced to conclude that there are literally zero beliefs or ideas worth subscribing to. The lunatic fringe is always there, and it is always scary and/or really, really dumb. Learn to recognize the fringe.
  - cc81 5y ago
    I agree but it is also worth how/if the majority reacts to those kind of fringe ideas.
    - JohnBooty 5y ago
      That's a good point. I think perhaps the importance of that depends on how... unified the group is, you know? If there are 3 people at a dinner table and one of them is acting badly, definitely hold the other 2 accountable. If there are 1,000,000 people in a political party and 1% of them are acting badly, I think the 99% and the leaders are somewhat responsible. If there's a vague concept like "cultural appropriation" or "cringeworthiness" that isn't owned by anybody, I don't know how practical it is for people using the term to really have responsibility for people that misuse it. At some point there's just a practical limit I think.
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    - lariati 5y ago
      Or you could just not go on twitter. The idea there is a mass movement of people saying other people tan too much is beyond delusional.

asdff 5y ago

It's gotten to the point where people are even criticized for tanning too much beyond what is supposedly acceptable for their identity.

JohnBooty 5y ago
That's a pretty fringe outlook. A good piece of advice would be: Every belief, good or bad, has a lunatic fringe that takes that belief to some stupid extreme. If we judge every belief by its most deluded lunatic fringe, then we would be forced to conclude that there are literally zero beliefs or ideas worth subscribing to. The lunatic fringe is always there, and it is always scary and/or really, really dumb. Learn to recognize the fringe.
- cc81 5y ago
  I agree but it is also worth how/if the majority reacts to those kind of fringe ideas.
  - JohnBooty 5y ago
    That's a good point. I think perhaps the importance of that depends on how... unified the group is, you know? If there are 3 people at a dinner table and one of them is acting badly, definitely hold the other 2 accountable. If there are 1,000,000 people in a political party and 1% of them are acting badly, I think the 99% and the leaders are somewhat responsible. If there's a vague concept like "cultural appropriation" or "cringeworthiness" that isn't owned by anybody, I don't know how practical it is for people using the term to really have responsibility for people that misuse it. At some point there's just a practical limit I think.
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  - lariati 5y ago
    Or you could just not go on twitter. The idea there is a mass movement of people saying other people tan too much is beyond delusional.