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Historically they've not done that because they know the IDF's response is proportional to the civilian casualties on the Israeli side. Better to wait for clear

Historically they've not done that because they know the IDF's response is proportional to the civilian casualties on the Israeli side. Better to wait for clear weather when iron dome is maximally effective.

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golergka 5y ago
This doesn't make any sense. The whole point is to get a bigger IDF response, bloodier palestinian casualties, louder western media coverage and larger help packages to pocket.
- LorenPechtel 5y ago
  No. Hamas doesn't want too much Israeli response--Israel is too good at targeting the higher-up people. They want to provoke some shooting but they don't want Israel to be serious enough about it that Hamas' human shields aren't enough protection.
  - skinnymuch 5y ago
    Yes. Which is so tragic. Perhaps I'm not aware of what is a Pro-Israel source or not, but when googling "mowing the grass" as the IDF's tactic against Gaza. It appeared as if most political sides agreed that is the tactic being taken. Different political sides viewed the morality and usefulness of that differently. But they all appeared to agree. Hamas isn't "mowing the grass". The IDF is. I'm not sure what a solution could actually be. However mowing the grass has clearly shown it benefits the evils of Hamas and other higher ups in Gaza. It keeps the current status quo in tact which gives Israel some benefits too. Let's (I am using "let us" as an American whose country is allied with Israel and as someone who supports Israel's right to their land and do not want innocent people to die) not "mow the grass" any more.
- ocschwar 5y ago
  If you want to stay in the news, cost the Israeli army money on Iron Dome rockets, rattle Israeli nerves but not watch Gaza get steamrolled yet again, you send the rockets on a clear day when Iron Dome can intercept them with ease. If you do want yet another IDF counterassault, then yes, launch in foggy weather. Hamas mostly takes the first option.
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  I do not believe this is entirely accurate. Some truths there, but a healthy lack of nuance. I always steelman a fellow web citizen's comments. However, I am finding it difficult to do here with the lack of civility, courtesy, & respect onto others.

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golergka 5y ago

This doesn't make any sense. The whole point is to get a bigger IDF response, bloodier palestinian casualties, louder western media coverage and larger help packages to pocket.

LorenPechtel 5y ago
No. Hamas doesn't want too much Israeli response--Israel is too good at targeting the higher-up people. They want to provoke some shooting but they don't want Israel to be serious enough about it that Hamas' human shields aren't enough protection.
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  Yes. Which is so tragic. Perhaps I'm not aware of what is a Pro-Israel source or not, but when googling "mowing the grass" as the IDF's tactic against Gaza. It appeared as if most political sides agreed that is the tactic being taken. Different political sides viewed the morality and usefulness of that differently. But they all appeared to agree. Hamas isn't "mowing the grass". The IDF is. I'm not sure what a solution could actually be. However mowing the grass has clearly shown it benefits the evils of Hamas and other higher ups in Gaza. It keeps the current status quo in tact which gives Israel some benefits too. Let's (I am using "let us" as an American whose country is allied with Israel and as someone who supports Israel's right to their land and do not want innocent people to die) not "mow the grass" any more.
ocschwar 5y ago
If you want to stay in the news, cost the Israeli army money on Iron Dome rockets, rattle Israeli nerves but not watch Gaza get steamrolled yet again, you send the rockets on a clear day when Iron Dome can intercept them with ease. If you do want yet another IDF counterassault, then yes, launch in foggy weather. Hamas mostly takes the first option.
skinnymuch 5y ago
I do not believe this is entirely accurate. Some truths there, but a healthy lack of nuance. I always steelman a fellow web citizen's comments. However, I am finding it difficult to do here with the lack of civility, courtesy, & respect onto others.