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Not sure if this is sarcasm... but I don't think OP made this (https://github.com/dginev/ar5iv https://github.com/dginev/ar5iv), they are just sharing. Besides

by shishy 5y ago

Not sure if this is sarcasm... but I don't think OP made this (https://github.com/dginev/ar5iv https://github.com/dginev/ar5iv), they are just sharing. Besides I don't think this is meant to be a total replacement that everyone is going to magically use and abandon PDFs, it might just be a convenience within a workflow to skim and check the full PDF if necessary.

ouid 5y ago
I think the holes on your sarcasm filter might be too large.
- jimhefferon 5y ago
  I used to think I could recognize sarcasm whenever I saw it. Then I lived through the past few years.
  - ouid 5y ago
    I'm not making detailed arguments about what your sarcasm filter should be, but if this comment isn't detected as sarcasm, you should turn a knob somewhere.
    - jimhefferon 5y ago
      I have to calibrate it to the fact that during the 2016 presidential debates one of the major party candidates assured everyone watching that his sex organs were doing great. And he won. My knobs are on 11, frankly.
- mlindner 5y ago
  I think a lot of people overestimate how well sarcasm can be determined on the internet. Sarcasm detection involves not only culture but also age, morals, and politics. Something that may appear as sarcasm to one person/group when addressed to an "in-group" would appear as someone actually saying that seriously to an "out-group", especially when it reinforces any kind of stereotype. Something that would be easily detected as sarcasm by a friend would be treated absolutely seriously by my parents, and my cousins who are almost a generation younger than me often write sarcasm I can't detect. There's only one rule of sarcasm on the internet, if you want to be sarcastic, always end your comment with /s, otherwise avoid it. To get back to the topic, I detected the OP's post as sarcasm, but I had to read it most of the way through it before I determined it was probably sarcasm, but I wasn't 100% sure.
  - ouid 5y ago
    I couldn't disagree more. The rule of sarcasm on the internet is the same as every other rule where everyone is anonymous. Give people the benefit of the doubt. Moreover, the claim that sarcasm can't be detected on the internet is extremely dubious. It's really not that hard. The person puts extra effort into showing how the thing that they are pretending to believe is an absurd thing to believe. This is not culture or age dependent. "It's awful how those people are doing all that good stuff" is a statement that requires you to know zero context. An alien can detect that this sentence is absurd. Moreover, if someone actually believes something absurd, and presents it this way, it doesn't matter if it's sarcasm or not, since they aren't convincing anyone.
    - duckmysick 5y ago
      The rules of communication trump the rule of sarcasm. If you want to get your message across clearly, avoid disambiguation. When the target audience misunderstands the message, that's on the author. If I wanted to hunt for a hidden meaning in written text, I'd rather read poetry.
    - mlindner 5y ago
      > It's really not that hard. Correction: It's really not that hard for you. It IS hard for me, especially in recent years.

by shishy 5y ago

ouid 5y ago

I think the holes on your sarcasm filter might be too large.

jimhefferon 5y ago
I used to think I could recognize sarcasm whenever I saw it. Then I lived through the past few years.
- ouid 5y ago
  I'm not making detailed arguments about what your sarcasm filter should be, but if this comment isn't detected as sarcasm, you should turn a knob somewhere.
  - jimhefferon 5y ago
    I have to calibrate it to the fact that during the 2016 presidential debates one of the major party candidates assured everyone watching that his sex organs were doing great. And he won. My knobs are on 11, frankly.
mlindner 5y ago
I think a lot of people overestimate how well sarcasm can be determined on the internet. Sarcasm detection involves not only culture but also age, morals, and politics. Something that may appear as sarcasm to one person/group when addressed to an "in-group" would appear as someone actually saying that seriously to an "out-group", especially when it reinforces any kind of stereotype. Something that would be easily detected as sarcasm by a friend would be treated absolutely seriously by my parents, and my cousins who are almost a generation younger than me often write sarcasm I can't detect. There's only one rule of sarcasm on the internet, if you want to be sarcastic, always end your comment with /s, otherwise avoid it. To get back to the topic, I detected the OP's post as sarcasm, but I had to read it most of the way through it before I determined it was probably sarcasm, but I wasn't 100% sure.
- ouid 5y ago
  I couldn't disagree more. The rule of sarcasm on the internet is the same as every other rule where everyone is anonymous. Give people the benefit of the doubt. Moreover, the claim that sarcasm can't be detected on the internet is extremely dubious. It's really not that hard. The person puts extra effort into showing how the thing that they are pretending to believe is an absurd thing to believe. This is not culture or age dependent. "It's awful how those people are doing all that good stuff" is a statement that requires you to know zero context. An alien can detect that this sentence is absurd. Moreover, if someone actually believes something absurd, and presents it this way, it doesn't matter if it's sarcasm or not, since they aren't convincing anyone.
  - duckmysick 5y ago
    The rules of communication trump the rule of sarcasm. If you want to get your message across clearly, avoid disambiguation. When the target audience misunderstands the message, that's on the author. If I wanted to hunt for a hidden meaning in written text, I'd rather read poetry.
  - mlindner 5y ago
    > It's really not that hard. Correction: It's really not that hard for you. It IS hard for me, especially in recent years.