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Another thing is when TiWorker.exe (Updating system) or MsMpEng.exe (Antimalware system) start consuming so much CPU that it starts to heat up my laptop and its

Another thing is when TiWorker.exe (Updating system) or MsMpEng.exe (Antimalware system) start consuming so much CPU that it starts to heat up my laptop and its overheating system kicks in and shuts everything down. It's really annoying.

withinboredom 5y ago
That’s uh, not normal. You should probably replace your thermal paste between your heat sink and cpu. Your cpu should be able to throttle down as needed to reduce temperature even if your fan can’t keep up. If it’s not doing that, it isn’t cooling down at all.
- RF_Savage 5y ago
  MS update stuff consuming loads of cpu is normal. It makes my 6c12t desktop computer scream, so pushing a laptop into thermal protection is not out of the question.
  - withinboredom 5y ago
    A computer operating correctly should never go into thermal protection, even with an insane load. Thermal protection is a CPU's last resort to return to sanity and its likely physical damage could result if the thermal protection isn't applied fast enough. But FWIW, my mornings usually consist of updating everything for me, personally. I never have updates happen unexpectedly. There's a script I run when I sit down to my computer for the first thing, every single day.
    - extropy 5y ago
      Oh no, laptops thermal throttle all the time. As do most of the desktops. It's part of normal operation for any CPU/GPU released in last 10 or so years. There is a reason why intel advertises a regular and "Boost" clock speeds. Boost clock is not sustainable without heavy duty cooling and the CPU will throttle down once it's heated up.
      - atvrager 5y ago
        Throttling's normal and expected. OP indicates "shuts everything down" though -- which sounds more like the CPU turned off to prevent damage. That shouldn't happen if the cooling is working properly.
      - saltcured 5y ago
        I think the miscommunication is around "shuts everything down". Some of us are reading that as an emergency power-off event far beyond normal thermal throttling, which is just a reduction in clock speeds within the typical variable clock range of the power management system. I don't know if it still holds, but some older systems also had a third category of throttling in between the normal speed range and an emergency power off. They would stutter badly as if they were applying some duty cycle and alternating between a suspended state and a slowly clocked state. This would show up as really frustrating IO buffering and UI latency, similar to how a machine might behave if it were stuck in a virtual-memory swapping storm and processes would freeze/unfreeze sporadically.
        KptMarchewa 5y ago
        Intel's i9 regularly dropped to 400-800mhz on macbooks.

withinboredom 5y ago

That’s uh, not normal. You should probably replace your thermal paste between your heat sink and cpu. Your cpu should be able to throttle down as needed to reduce temperature even if your fan can’t keep up. If it’s not doing that, it isn’t cooling down at all.

RF_Savage 5y ago
MS update stuff consuming loads of cpu is normal. It makes my 6c12t desktop computer scream, so pushing a laptop into thermal protection is not out of the question.
- withinboredom 5y ago
  A computer operating correctly should never go into thermal protection, even with an insane load. Thermal protection is a CPU's last resort to return to sanity and its likely physical damage could result if the thermal protection isn't applied fast enough. But FWIW, my mornings usually consist of updating everything for me, personally. I never have updates happen unexpectedly. There's a script I run when I sit down to my computer for the first thing, every single day.
  - extropy 5y ago
    Oh no, laptops thermal throttle all the time. As do most of the desktops. It's part of normal operation for any CPU/GPU released in last 10 or so years. There is a reason why intel advertises a regular and "Boost" clock speeds. Boost clock is not sustainable without heavy duty cooling and the CPU will throttle down once it's heated up.
    - atvrager 5y ago
      Throttling's normal and expected. OP indicates "shuts everything down" though -- which sounds more like the CPU turned off to prevent damage. That shouldn't happen if the cooling is working properly.
    - saltcured 5y ago
      I think the miscommunication is around "shuts everything down". Some of us are reading that as an emergency power-off event far beyond normal thermal throttling, which is just a reduction in clock speeds within the typical variable clock range of the power management system. I don't know if it still holds, but some older systems also had a third category of throttling in between the normal speed range and an emergency power off. They would stutter badly as if they were applying some duty cycle and alternating between a suspended state and a slowly clocked state. This would show up as really frustrating IO buffering and UI latency, similar to how a machine might behave if it were stuck in a virtual-memory swapping storm and processes would freeze/unfreeze sporadically.
      - KptMarchewa 5y ago
        Intel's i9 regularly dropped to 400-800mhz on macbooks.