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I expect in my lifetime insurance policy will get to dictate software practices and only certified software engineers will be allowed to program software. I al

I expect in my lifetime insurance policy will get to dictate software practices and only certified software engineers will be allowed to program software. I also think anyone who believes this won't be applied to free / open source is fooling themselves. Other profession had hundreds of years to mature, but software will not be allowed time to grow.

laurent92 5y ago
Yes. Free OSS is like “I build bridges for free as an architect” or “I dig wells for free in Africa.” It may be free but we still need to ensure its security. And this is how, I believe, AWS will become kind of required, as it will be the only way to get a certified-up-to-date version of a Linux, of a database, of a library, etc. And programmers will only be responsible for the glue code between those services.
- dathinab 5y ago
  It's more like "I build a bridge blue print for free as an hobby project". Which is ok. (As long as you don't claim that it's something it's not.) And it's also ok for a company to actually use your blueprint (ignore copyright for a moment). The problem is if a company uses the hobbist blue print without verifying that it fulfills necessary requirements, like being safe in case of an earth quake.
pjmlp 5y ago
I am ok with it, https://www-oern-pt.translate.goog/v-0C0J0H/informatica?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=pt&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-oern-pt.translate.goog/v-0C0J0H/informatica?_x_t...
turminal 5y ago
You're saying this as if you're very convinced it's a bad thing. Why? I'm not so sure it's a bad thing.
- protomyth 5y ago
  Programming ceases to be a hobby for anyone and you can kiss the make community goodbye. There will be no more masterpieces out of left field and all programmers are factory workers.
  - johnx5c 5y ago
    That's really absurd. People make food for friends and build everything from furniture to vehicles for fun in their garages without complying with any professional standards or laws all the time. How many people on Hackaday or any DIY site have ISO compliant or OSHA inspected labs? Existing regulations are not stopping the maker space scene.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    You can play car mechanics as self taught builder, the moment the car needs to hit the road, it must certificy road regulations. Not being a Mechanical Engineers doesn't prevent building the car and putting it on the road, provided the regulations are met. And if something happens to someone else with that car, the one building it is also liabiable, provided it was caused by a construction error. However not having an Engineering license doesn't forbid it to being built. Many programmers are factory workers, plugging software libraries, that is why open spaces are organized like the mills from industrial age, or the offshoring sweet shops exist.

laurent92 5y ago

Yes. Free OSS is like “I build bridges for free as an architect” or “I dig wells for free in Africa.” It may be free but we still need to ensure its security. And this is how, I believe, AWS will become kind of required, as it will be the only way to get a certified-up-to-date version of a Linux, of a database, of a library, etc. And programmers will only be responsible for the glue code between those services.

dathinab 5y ago
It's more like "I build a bridge blue print for free as an hobby project". Which is ok. (As long as you don't claim that it's something it's not.) And it's also ok for a company to actually use your blueprint (ignore copyright for a moment). The problem is if a company uses the hobbist blue print without verifying that it fulfills necessary requirements, like being safe in case of an earth quake.

pjmlp 5y ago

I am ok with it, https://www-oern-pt.translate.goog/v-0C0J0H/informatica?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=pt&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-oern-pt.translate.goog/v-0C0J0H/informatica?_x_t...

turminal 5y ago

You're saying this as if you're very convinced it's a bad thing. Why? I'm not so sure it's a bad thing.

protomyth 5y ago
Programming ceases to be a hobby for anyone and you can kiss the make community goodbye. There will be no more masterpieces out of left field and all programmers are factory workers.
- johnx5c 5y ago
  That's really absurd. People make food for friends and build everything from furniture to vehicles for fun in their garages without complying with any professional standards or laws all the time. How many people on Hackaday or any DIY site have ISO compliant or OSHA inspected labs? Existing regulations are not stopping the maker space scene.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  You can play car mechanics as self taught builder, the moment the car needs to hit the road, it must certificy road regulations. Not being a Mechanical Engineers doesn't prevent building the car and putting it on the road, provided the regulations are met. And if something happens to someone else with that car, the one building it is also liabiable, provided it was caused by a construction error. However not having an Engineering license doesn't forbid it to being built. Many programmers are factory workers, plugging software libraries, that is why open spaces are organized like the mills from industrial age, or the offshoring sweet shops exist.