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Workflows in my note app Skrift

45 points by ichverstehe 5y ago

erk__ 5y ago
I can see that you have made some releases in a GitHub repo, do you have any plans to make it a bit more accessible or to open source the program?
- billbrown 5y ago
  Where are you seeing those? I combed through this guy's online presence and found nothing.
  - 3np 5y ago
    https://github.com/halestreet/skrift-release https://github.com/halestreet/skrift-release
  - micimize 5y ago
    https://github.com/halestreet/skrift-release/releases https://github.com/halestreet/skrift-release/releases took a bit of sleuthing haha They're probably evaluating the market viability of a commercial product like roam
    - ichverstehe 5y ago
      OP here. When I started building this a year and a half ago, this was my plan. Since then, (1) there has been an explosion of note apps and (2) I realized that I do not really feel enthusiastic about building out commodity features needed for that. Instead, I am slowly building for myself, experimenting with different ideas and workflows[1], and sharing them on my blog, with the hope that someone else picks them up. Alternatively, if I wait long enough, the "note app" part will become a commodity itself, and I can implement the interface/workflows on top of it. Quarto[2] looks promising in that regard. Their visual editor[3], which is used in R Studio, is really good. [1] As an example, I at some point played around with a zooming user-interface: https://twitter.com/ichverstehe/status/1347896632424198144 https://twitter.com/ichverstehe/status/1347896632424198144 [2] https://quarto.org/ https://quarto.org/ [3] https://quarto.org/docs/visual-editor/ https://quarto.org/docs/visual-editor/
      - micimize 5y ago
        interesting – hadn't heard of quarto before. I dabbled some with building a wiki on top of jupyter lab (1) but have never really gotten beyond the yak-shaving step in the note taking domain. What few notes I do have I throw together in vim and grep for if needed. Looks like agoose77 has continued implementing some interesting extensions towards a hybrid literate programming / Zettelkasten environment for jupyter though (2), may be worth checking out given your interest in quarto. [1] https://github.com/micimize/jupyterlab-wikify https://github.com/micimize/jupyterlab-wikify [2] https://github.com/agoose77?tab=repositories&q=jupyter&type=source https://github.com/agoose77?tab=repositories&q=jupyter&type=...
    - billbrown 5y ago
      Hah! I saw that repo but there was only a README and I didn't dig deeper. Good job!
terhechte 5y ago
I've been working on a very similar app - also based on Sönke's book. Currently everything happens in the terminal but I wanted to start on a GUI app soon. I understand that you don't intend to open source your work, but thanks for the writeup. I like the idea of going over rows and columns, I'll probably shamelessly copy that (my current version uses a tree for display, much like Reddit or Hacker news comments, but that becomes difficult to parse after some time.
- ichverstehe 5y ago
  Please do copy! I have experimented with tree based interfaces as well, and have also found that they become unmanageable. The row/column approach works well, but eventually breaks down when working with dozens of notes at the same time. I am trying to figure out a way to efficiently group notes[1], but have hit a bit of a wall. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with :) [1] E.g. my attempt to have multiple workspaces, while neat in theory, wasn’t great to work with in practice: https://twitter.com/ichverstehe/status/1347896632424198144 https://twitter.com/ichverstehe/status/1347896632424198144 - having everything at the same level works better. My next attempt might be some sort of grouped tiles with autoscaling.
senectus1 5y ago
this looks interesting. seems to work the way i think... with decision tree's
dddw 5y ago
Writing notes, and reading noted are one thing, but reviewing and comparing notes is something else. This looks very interesting in thst regards

45 points by ichverstehe 5y ago

I can see that you have made some releases in a GitHub repo, do you have any plans to make it a bit more accessible or to open source the program?

billbrown 5y ago
Where are you seeing those? I combed through this guy's online presence and found nothing.
- 3np 5y ago
  https://github.com/halestreet/skrift-release https://github.com/halestreet/skrift-release
- micimize 5y ago
  https://github.com/halestreet/skrift-release/releases https://github.com/halestreet/skrift-release/releases took a bit of sleuthing haha They're probably evaluating the market viability of a commercial product like roam
  - ichverstehe 5y ago
    OP here. When I started building this a year and a half ago, this was my plan. Since then, (1) there has been an explosion of note apps and (2) I realized that I do not really feel enthusiastic about building out commodity features needed for that. Instead, I am slowly building for myself, experimenting with different ideas and workflows[1], and sharing them on my blog, with the hope that someone else picks them up. Alternatively, if I wait long enough, the "note app" part will become a commodity itself, and I can implement the interface/workflows on top of it. Quarto[2] looks promising in that regard. Their visual editor[3], which is used in R Studio, is really good. [1] As an example, I at some point played around with a zooming user-interface: https://twitter.com/ichverstehe/status/1347896632424198144 https://twitter.com/ichverstehe/status/1347896632424198144 [2] https://quarto.org/ https://quarto.org/ [3] https://quarto.org/docs/visual-editor/ https://quarto.org/docs/visual-editor/
    - micimize 5y ago
      interesting – hadn't heard of quarto before. I dabbled some with building a wiki on top of jupyter lab (1) but have never really gotten beyond the yak-shaving step in the note taking domain. What few notes I do have I throw together in vim and grep for if needed. Looks like agoose77 has continued implementing some interesting extensions towards a hybrid literate programming / Zettelkasten environment for jupyter though (2), may be worth checking out given your interest in quarto. [1] https://github.com/micimize/jupyterlab-wikify https://github.com/micimize/jupyterlab-wikify [2] https://github.com/agoose77?tab=repositories&q=jupyter&type=source https://github.com/agoose77?tab=repositories&q=jupyter&type=...
  - billbrown 5y ago
    Hah! I saw that repo but there was only a README and I didn't dig deeper. Good job!

terhechte 5y ago

I've been working on a very similar app - also based on Sönke's book. Currently everything happens in the terminal but I wanted to start on a GUI app soon. I understand that you don't intend to open source your work, but thanks for the writeup. I like the idea of going over rows and columns, I'll probably shamelessly copy that (my current version uses a tree for display, much like Reddit or Hacker news comments, but that becomes difficult to parse after some time.

ichverstehe 5y ago
Please do copy! I have experimented with tree based interfaces as well, and have also found that they become unmanageable. The row/column approach works well, but eventually breaks down when working with dozens of notes at the same time. I am trying to figure out a way to efficiently group notes[1], but have hit a bit of a wall. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with :) [1] E.g. my attempt to have multiple workspaces, while neat in theory, wasn’t great to work with in practice: https://twitter.com/ichverstehe/status/1347896632424198144 https://twitter.com/ichverstehe/status/1347896632424198144 - having everything at the same level works better. My next attempt might be some sort of grouped tiles with autoscaling.

senectus1 5y ago

this looks interesting. seems to work the way i think... with decision tree's

dddw 5y ago

Writing notes, and reading noted are one thing, but reviewing and comparing notes is something else. This looks very interesting in thst regards