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> My dad (when gowing up) was pulled over for a cop for doing a california stop in Colorado. The police officer let us off, because we had california plates. I

> My dad (when gowing up) was pulled over for a cop for doing a california stop in Colorado. The police officer let us off, because we had california plates. I'm confused. A "California Stop" isn't even legal in California.

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tshaddox 5y ago
Also I'm pretty sure lots of places say "{somePlace} Stop" where somePlace is some nearby place known for supposedly having bad drivers.
- FeteCommuniste 5y ago
  We say "California stop" or "California roll" even way out here in Texas.
- LastMuel 5y ago
  I don't disagree. It was the comment about the California plate - almost like it was supposed to validate the practice - that I don't understand. I commented as I have a concern that an uneducated reader may walk away with the idea that it's legal in that state. It most certainly is not. Apparently, though, Idaho does have some provision for bicyclists and rolling through stop signs. So, there you go - an "Idaho Stop" is a thing for any potential bicyclists in Idaho.
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    > Idaho does have some provision for bicyclists and rolling through stop signs. As does Oregon. I would guess there are others, too.
- CGamesPlay 5y ago
  I am also more familiar with the term "california stop" than "rolling stop", and I was taught it by my parents who have never lived west of Texas. Looks like this admonition did a California stop all the way to the east coast.
- jMyles 5y ago
  Idaho stop? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop
bryanlarsen 5y ago
"California Stop" is an insult, implying that people drive badly in California.
- alanh 5y ago
  OK? It’s also a common term for it.
- dymk 5y ago
  A good example of a “California Comment” right here
actually_a_dog 5y ago
It's not, but approximately everybody does it. I've even seen cops do it. Once, I sat at a stop sign for a while, just to see if I could observe anybody actually stop. Nobody did.
- saila 5y ago
  I've done this a few times. Almost no one stops, unless they're looking at their phone.
mullingitover 5y ago
> A "California Stop" isn't even legal in California. I'm informed that these are actually legal as long as you don't disrespect the police by doing it in front of them. It's the same way that going slightly over the speed limit on freeways is legal as long as you don't insult the police by passing them.
- bdamm 5y ago
  There's a difference between legal and enforced. Going over the speed limit is not legal, but no officer will pull you over at +1, unless you piss them off for some other reason, like by being black in a white community, for example. Racial biases aside, this is actually a really good thing. If every law was enforced perfectly today, everyone would be arrested, fined, or jailed tomorrow.
  - kelnos 5y ago
    > There's a difference between legal and enforced. I think the parent knows that, and was being a bit tongue-in-cheek ;)
  - walrus01 5y ago
    realistically everywhere on I-5 between Seattle and the border, people do +5 over, and often 10 over. I'd wager it's near impossible to get pulled over for doing 65 in the 60 zone north of Seattle, and when the speed limit changes to 70, for doing 75 in the 70 zone on cruise control. Usually when I have cruise control set to exactly 75 and I'm in the right lane, I'm very often passed by people who are probably doing 80 to 82 mph.
    - gen220 5y ago
      In New York, the highway norm is 13-15 over for the "I want to go fast but not get a ticket" crowd. (i.e. 80 in a 65). AFAICT, the reason is that there's a big jump in the median fine if you're going >15mph over the speed limit vs <= 15mph over. Economically-speaking, it's not worth the police officer's time to pull somebody over who's "merely" 10 over, because somebody going 16+ over will appear in a few more minutes of waiting. Interestingly, the state website says the official "maximum" fine bump occurs at 11+ mph over. I suspect they wait for 15mph to rule out the plausible cover stories "I was only going that fast to overtake the other car" or "new here, I didn't realize the incline was so sharply downhill with nobody in front of me". You probably wouldn't get pulled over for going 80-82 in Washington (i.e. they people passing you probably have their cruise controls set for 80), but it might be less enjoyable of a drive. You have to pay more frequent, closer attention, because you're overtaking people more frequently. Ironically, California dives deep into "low fines for speeds under 15 over". the under-15-over fine base is a meager $35! For 16-25, it jumps to $70, which is still paltry.
d0gsg0w00f 5y ago
Who knows where these things come from. Here in Georgia I've heard people call it a "Texas Turn Off" when someone dives for the exit from the center lane of the highway.
- jcranberry 5y ago
  At least in Houston there are some insane highway intersections where that happens very often.
- parkingrift 5y ago
  Probably commentary on the road designs with absurd and massive interchanges.
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kelnos 5y ago
Yeah; 15 years ago got a ticket for (allegedly; I still maintain that I came to a full stop) doing a California Stop in California.
lowbloodsugar 5y ago
Many years ago had to do traffic school in california. Instructor took us out of class to go watch people at a four-way stop sign. Nobody stopped. We even got to watch a cop not stop.

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tshaddox 5y ago

Also I'm pretty sure lots of places say "{somePlace} Stop" where somePlace is some nearby place known for supposedly having bad drivers.

FeteCommuniste 5y ago
We say "California stop" or "California roll" even way out here in Texas.
LastMuel 5y ago
I don't disagree. It was the comment about the California plate - almost like it was supposed to validate the practice - that I don't understand. I commented as I have a concern that an uneducated reader may walk away with the idea that it's legal in that state. It most certainly is not. Apparently, though, Idaho does have some provision for bicyclists and rolling through stop signs. So, there you go - an "Idaho Stop" is a thing for any potential bicyclists in Idaho.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  > Idaho does have some provision for bicyclists and rolling through stop signs. As does Oregon. I would guess there are others, too.
CGamesPlay 5y ago
I am also more familiar with the term "california stop" than "rolling stop", and I was taught it by my parents who have never lived west of Texas. Looks like this admonition did a California stop all the way to the east coast.
jMyles 5y ago
Idaho stop? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop

bryanlarsen 5y ago

"California Stop" is an insult, implying that people drive badly in California.

alanh 5y ago
OK? It’s also a common term for it.
dymk 5y ago
A good example of a “California Comment” right here

actually_a_dog 5y ago

It's not, but approximately everybody does it. I've even seen cops do it. Once, I sat at a stop sign for a while, just to see if I could observe anybody actually stop. Nobody did.

saila 5y ago
I've done this a few times. Almost no one stops, unless they're looking at their phone.

mullingitover 5y ago

> A "California Stop" isn't even legal in California. I'm informed that these are actually legal as long as you don't disrespect the police by doing it in front of them. It's the same way that going slightly over the speed limit on freeways is legal as long as you don't insult the police by passing them.

bdamm 5y ago
There's a difference between legal and enforced. Going over the speed limit is not legal, but no officer will pull you over at +1, unless you piss them off for some other reason, like by being black in a white community, for example. Racial biases aside, this is actually a really good thing. If every law was enforced perfectly today, everyone would be arrested, fined, or jailed tomorrow.
- kelnos 5y ago
  > There's a difference between legal and enforced. I think the parent knows that, and was being a bit tongue-in-cheek ;)
- walrus01 5y ago
  realistically everywhere on I-5 between Seattle and the border, people do +5 over, and often 10 over. I'd wager it's near impossible to get pulled over for doing 65 in the 60 zone north of Seattle, and when the speed limit changes to 70, for doing 75 in the 70 zone on cruise control. Usually when I have cruise control set to exactly 75 and I'm in the right lane, I'm very often passed by people who are probably doing 80 to 82 mph.
  - gen220 5y ago
    In New York, the highway norm is 13-15 over for the "I want to go fast but not get a ticket" crowd. (i.e. 80 in a 65). AFAICT, the reason is that there's a big jump in the median fine if you're going >15mph over the speed limit vs <= 15mph over. Economically-speaking, it's not worth the police officer's time to pull somebody over who's "merely" 10 over, because somebody going 16+ over will appear in a few more minutes of waiting. Interestingly, the state website says the official "maximum" fine bump occurs at 11+ mph over. I suspect they wait for 15mph to rule out the plausible cover stories "I was only going that fast to overtake the other car" or "new here, I didn't realize the incline was so sharply downhill with nobody in front of me". You probably wouldn't get pulled over for going 80-82 in Washington (i.e. they people passing you probably have their cruise controls set for 80), but it might be less enjoyable of a drive. You have to pay more frequent, closer attention, because you're overtaking people more frequently. Ironically, California dives deep into "low fines for speeds under 15 over". the under-15-over fine base is a meager $35! For 16-25, it jumps to $70, which is still paltry.

d0gsg0w00f 5y ago

Who knows where these things come from. Here in Georgia I've heard people call it a "Texas Turn Off" when someone dives for the exit from the center lane of the highway.

jcranberry 5y ago
At least in Houston there are some insane highway intersections where that happens very often.
parkingrift 5y ago
Probably commentary on the road designs with absurd and massive interchanges.
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kelnos 5y ago

Yeah; 15 years ago got a ticket for (allegedly; I still maintain that I came to a full stop) doing a California Stop in California.

lowbloodsugar 5y ago

Many years ago had to do traffic school in california. Instructor took us out of class to go watch people at a four-way stop sign. Nobody stopped. We even got to watch a cop not stop.