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Love my Framework. Barring Apple's recent move away from the touchbar it's honestly the first machine I've been excited about in 6 or so years. The build qualit

Love my Framework. Barring Apple's recent move away from the touchbar it's honestly the first machine I've been excited about in 6 or so years. The build quality is great, love the simplicity and design of the expansion ports, and the repair/upgrade-ability is huge. It's gotten me back into using Linux as a daily driver. I really hope they stay true to their vision and that this means expanding it into other consumer product lines.

ncallaway 5y ago
I can't remember exactly the situation I was in with power cords and devices, but at least once the ability to just swap which side of my computer the USB-A port was on was extremely useful.
imilk 5y ago
Got a DIY one last week with pop_os setup and it's an amazing laptop to have for a reasonable price. Having used a Pixelbook for awhile, it's hard to ever go back from using a 3:2 screen, but that's exactly what you get with Framework (obviously w/ much better specs than a Pixelbook & a full Linux install).
- vorpalhex 5y ago
  How is pop on the framework? Any graphics woes?
  - loganlinn 5y ago
    I not gaming, but I do run a 3840x1600 external monitor over USB-C hub with my Framework on PopOS. I have had zero issues so far...
  - imilk 5y ago
    I don't use it for gaming, but there was a slight screen tear issue that can be solved in about 60 seconds. Other than that it works perfectly well with fractional scaling over 3 monitors.
  - rpdillon 5y ago
    Been using PopOS on my DIY version since last July. The battery life isn't what I hoped for (I haven't done exhaustive testing), but otherwise I've had a great experience. I might be doing something wrong, but using integer scaling at 2x results in a UI that's a bit too big for my tastes, but if I use 1x I feel it's too small, so fractional scaling seems to be necessary for me to get the right balance. It drives an external monitor at 1920x1080, and was just looking at buying another HDMI adapter, but I haven't yet been able to determine whether or not it's capable of driving two 1920x1080 displays in addition to its internal panel. That would be my ideal setup for WFH, I think. In case it's not obvious, my vision isn't good enough for me to feel strongly about HiDPI. =) But, to echo what others have said: this laptop is a clear winner for my use cases. I'm very pleased that they managed to nail modularity without sacrificing build quality and aesthetics.
    - imilk 5y ago
      It's capable of driving 2 external monitors that are 1920x1080 or greater. I do it every day.
    - _aerolith_ 5y ago
      It runs dual 4ks for me via a thunderbolt doc (and is far less error prone than my 16" MacBook which likes to crash randomly when thunderbolt is connected)
samwillis 5y ago
I couldn't find on their site, is the casework/cassis plastic or aluminium?
- bluehatbrit 5y ago
  Thankfully it's aluminum!
geoffeg 5y ago
I've come very close to buying a Framework laptop a few times, but I'd only want to run Linux on it and wasn't sure how well it was supported. How are things like wifi, sleep and battery life under Linux?
- ayushnix 5y ago
  Unusable for me because it needs to be scaled fractionally. Unless they come out with a v2 which supports integer scaling, the laptop in its current form isn't worth buying if you don't like high input latency.
- krasin 5y ago
  +1. I'm holding on buying a Framework laptop because I've heard that it does not support proper sleep. It would be great to hear if the issues with heating / losing battery when sleeping in a backpack are real or not.
  - rcthompson 5y ago
    There's 2 supported sleep modes, referred to as "s2idle" and "deep" in /sys/power/mem_sleep. My limited understanding is this: - "s2idle" = S0ix and "deep" = S3 - S0ix is similar to how smartphones go to sleep by just idling everything and not actually sleeping. On the Framework it drains around 1 or 2% per hour (I haven't measured exactly.) - S3 sleep is the more familiar suspend-to-RAM functionality. The power drain is significantly less than S0ix. Both sleep modes work fine in Ubuntu 21.10 on my Framework. I actually have mine set to S0ix because while S3 sleep has less battery drain, it takes something like 10 seconds longer than S0ix to wake back up after opening the lid. And since I'm mostly working from home, the battery drain isn't an issue for me. Still, the difference between the two is significant enough that I kind of wish there were separate menu options for both. Though I realize that having "sleep" and "deeper sleep" menu options is not the most user-friendly design. Of course you can also get hibernate (i.e. suspend to disk and turn off power completely) running, but my understanding is that hibernate is currently incompatible with Secure Boot, since it's non-trivial to verify that the system is resuming with the same kernel as the original boot. So you have to choose which one you want, hibernate or SB.
nzealand 5y ago
> The build quality is great, love the simplicity and design of the expansion ports, and the repair/upgrade-ability is huge. I also love the expansion ports. I am really glad they have raised a series A, because in 3-5 years I want the freedom to upgrade the motherboard without creating a ton of e-waste. https://frame.work/blog/the-upgradeable-mainboard https://frame.work/blog/the-upgradeable-mainboard
lijogdfljk 5y ago
Yea i think they're going to be my next laptop when it's time for me to upgrade.
silexia 5y ago
Businesses can't stay true to their vision once they take investor money. Now the investors are in charge and they want maximum return on investment. Never take outside money unless there is simply no other way.

ncallaway 5y ago

I can't remember exactly the situation I was in with power cords and devices, but at least once the ability to just swap which side of my computer the USB-A port was on was extremely useful.

imilk 5y ago

Got a DIY one last week with pop_os setup and it's an amazing laptop to have for a reasonable price. Having used a Pixelbook for awhile, it's hard to ever go back from using a 3:2 screen, but that's exactly what you get with Framework (obviously w/ much better specs than a Pixelbook & a full Linux install).

vorpalhex 5y ago
How is pop on the framework? Any graphics woes?
- loganlinn 5y ago
  I not gaming, but I do run a 3840x1600 external monitor over USB-C hub with my Framework on PopOS. I have had zero issues so far...
- imilk 5y ago
  I don't use it for gaming, but there was a slight screen tear issue that can be solved in about 60 seconds. Other than that it works perfectly well with fractional scaling over 3 monitors.
- rpdillon 5y ago
  Been using PopOS on my DIY version since last July. The battery life isn't what I hoped for (I haven't done exhaustive testing), but otherwise I've had a great experience. I might be doing something wrong, but using integer scaling at 2x results in a UI that's a bit too big for my tastes, but if I use 1x I feel it's too small, so fractional scaling seems to be necessary for me to get the right balance. It drives an external monitor at 1920x1080, and was just looking at buying another HDMI adapter, but I haven't yet been able to determine whether or not it's capable of driving two 1920x1080 displays in addition to its internal panel. That would be my ideal setup for WFH, I think. In case it's not obvious, my vision isn't good enough for me to feel strongly about HiDPI. =) But, to echo what others have said: this laptop is a clear winner for my use cases. I'm very pleased that they managed to nail modularity without sacrificing build quality and aesthetics.
  - imilk 5y ago
    It's capable of driving 2 external monitors that are 1920x1080 or greater. I do it every day.
  - _aerolith_ 5y ago
    It runs dual 4ks for me via a thunderbolt doc (and is far less error prone than my 16" MacBook which likes to crash randomly when thunderbolt is connected)

samwillis 5y ago

I couldn't find on their site, is the casework/cassis plastic or aluminium?

bluehatbrit 5y ago
Thankfully it's aluminum!

geoffeg 5y ago

I've come very close to buying a Framework laptop a few times, but I'd only want to run Linux on it and wasn't sure how well it was supported. How are things like wifi, sleep and battery life under Linux?

ayushnix 5y ago
Unusable for me because it needs to be scaled fractionally. Unless they come out with a v2 which supports integer scaling, the laptop in its current form isn't worth buying if you don't like high input latency.
krasin 5y ago
+1. I'm holding on buying a Framework laptop because I've heard that it does not support proper sleep. It would be great to hear if the issues with heating / losing battery when sleeping in a backpack are real or not.
- rcthompson 5y ago
  There's 2 supported sleep modes, referred to as "s2idle" and "deep" in /sys/power/mem_sleep. My limited understanding is this: - "s2idle" = S0ix and "deep" = S3 - S0ix is similar to how smartphones go to sleep by just idling everything and not actually sleeping. On the Framework it drains around 1 or 2% per hour (I haven't measured exactly.) - S3 sleep is the more familiar suspend-to-RAM functionality. The power drain is significantly less than S0ix. Both sleep modes work fine in Ubuntu 21.10 on my Framework. I actually have mine set to S0ix because while S3 sleep has less battery drain, it takes something like 10 seconds longer than S0ix to wake back up after opening the lid. And since I'm mostly working from home, the battery drain isn't an issue for me. Still, the difference between the two is significant enough that I kind of wish there were separate menu options for both. Though I realize that having "sleep" and "deeper sleep" menu options is not the most user-friendly design. Of course you can also get hibernate (i.e. suspend to disk and turn off power completely) running, but my understanding is that hibernate is currently incompatible with Secure Boot, since it's non-trivial to verify that the system is resuming with the same kernel as the original boot. So you have to choose which one you want, hibernate or SB.

nzealand 5y ago

> The build quality is great, love the simplicity and design of the expansion ports, and the repair/upgrade-ability is huge. I also love the expansion ports. I am really glad they have raised a series A, because in 3-5 years I want the freedom to upgrade the motherboard without creating a ton of e-waste. https://frame.work/blog/the-upgradeable-mainboard https://frame.work/blog/the-upgradeable-mainboard

lijogdfljk 5y ago

Yea i think they're going to be my next laptop when it's time for me to upgrade.

silexia 5y ago

Businesses can't stay true to their vision once they take investor money. Now the investors are in charge and they want maximum return on investment. Never take outside money unless there is simply no other way.