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Pragmatic rulemaking for large numbers of people also needs to take into account the fact that the rule will naturally be viewed as a loose guideline by some pe

Pragmatic rulemaking for large numbers of people also needs to take into account the fact that the rule will naturally be viewed as a loose guideline by some people, and even as a thing to be defied for its own sake by others. Setting the limit stricter than the actual desired behavior can push average behavior closer to the target.

modeless 5y ago
Yes, that's a great reason why laws made for humans may not be perfect when applied strictly to machines.
donatj 5y ago
> Setting the limit stricter than the actual desired behavior can push average behavior closer to the target I hate this so much. Selective enforcement only serves to enable overzealous enforcement against unpopular and disenfranchised groups. One does one small thing wrong and they can then tack a large handful of other charges that would never otherwise be enforced. It's disgusting. Make the rules things that should actually be rules. Enforce them as written. The end.
jackson1442 5y ago
> Setting the limit stricter than the actual desired behavior can push average behavior closer to the target. Absolutely not, at least in the context of speed limits. Where I live, most of the speed limits are at least 15mph lower than they should be (why is a 6 lane road 30mph???), so you get: * people who follow the speed limit exactly: 30mph * people who follow the speed limit the road was designed for: 45mph * people who see the limit as a "limit:" 25mph It's a mess. Roads need to be designed to the desired speed limit. Don't make a 6-lane straight road 30mph; people unfamiliar with the area will assume the speed limit's 50% higher than it is, and people from the area will feel like they're going incredibly slow. In short, it should be uncomfortable to go >= 20mph over by design if you want people to follow your speed limits.

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Pragmatic rulemaking for large numbers of people also needs to take into account the fact that the rule will naturally be viewed as a loose guideline by some pe

by sutuplesu 5y ago

modeless 5y ago
Yes, that's a great reason why laws made for humans may not be perfect when applied strictly to machines.
donatj 5y ago
> Setting the limit stricter than the actual desired behavior can push average behavior closer to the target I hate this so much. Selective enforcement only serves to enable overzealous enforcement against unpopular and disenfranchised groups. One does one small thing wrong and they can then tack a large handful of other charges that would never otherwise be enforced. It's disgusting. Make the rules things that should actually be rules. Enforce them as written. The end.
jackson1442 5y ago
> Setting the limit stricter than the actual desired behavior can push average behavior closer to the target. Absolutely not, at least in the context of speed limits. Where I live, most of the speed limits are at least 15mph lower than they should be (why is a 6 lane road 30mph???), so you get: * people who follow the speed limit exactly: 30mph * people who follow the speed limit the road was designed for: 45mph * people who see the limit as a "limit:" 25mph It's a mess. Roads need to be designed to the desired speed limit. Don't make a 6-lane straight road 30mph; people unfamiliar with the area will assume the speed limit's 50% higher than it is, and people from the area will feel like they're going incredibly slow. In short, it should be uncomfortable to go >= 20mph over by design if you want people to follow your speed limits.