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The issue there is not so much the rolling stop but not respect right of way. Personally I think almost all stop signs should be replaced with roundabouts as i

The issue there is not so much the rolling stop but not respect right of way. Personally I think almost all stop signs should be replaced with roundabouts as it better represents how people want to drive and allows for rolling stops but that’s just me

Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
A stop sign at the end of a neighborhood road at the intersection of a main thorough street makes sense. But four-way stop signs absolutely should not be a thing. Anywhere a 4-way stop exists should certainly be a roundabout. The only problem is that roundabouts in the USA are exceedingly rare in most of the country. There would need to be a massive education campaign for them to work for most people. There are an alarming number of Americans that think that the people already on the roundabout have to yield for the people coming on.
- ak217 5y ago
  It depends on the location. There are plenty of city intersections where 4-way stops are completely appropriate, and a roundabout would be impossible because it would have a much bigger footprint (and would block trucks and emergency vehicles).
  - beachy 5y ago
    Some places use virtual roundabouts, where the roundabout part is simply a small painted circle on the road. Emergency vehicles can drive straight over it
    - caf 5y ago
      There's also formed roundabouts where most of it is raised but only by a small amount, so that emergency vehicles with large tires can drive straight over it but still discourages light vehicles from doing the same.
ak217 5y ago
We have a heavily trafficked roundabout in our neighborhood and it's a big hazard to pedestrians because drivers take it way too fast and fail to yield to pedestrians in the crosswalks around it. Aside from that, the roundabout is great but takes up a lot more space than an intersection would. Maybe some bumps to calm the traffic approaching the roundabout would help. The problem that I see is just insufficient respect for traffic laws. I'm not sure what to do about it, aside from more police presence.
- caf 5y ago
  Maybe some bumps to calm the traffic approaching the roundabout would help. Yes, that seems to be a somewhat common solution, eg: https://goo.gl/maps/XJ8SNDDrQBhBu1nH8 https://goo.gl/maps/XJ8SNDDrQBhBu1nH8
asdff 5y ago
They kinda suck because American drivers stop at roundabouts even when the sign says to yield
FireBeyond 5y ago
I do like the Australian perspective, where I learned to drive before I moved to the US. There's no concept of "right of way" on Australian roads. There's only "duty to yield". It might seem like a subtle concept/difference, but when it comes time to stand up in court/ be pulled over/ avoid an accident, it frames things better. Too many in the US are "it's my road, asshole, I got the right of way".

Sohcahtoa82 5y ago

A stop sign at the end of a neighborhood road at the intersection of a main thorough street makes sense. But four-way stop signs absolutely should not be a thing. Anywhere a 4-way stop exists should certainly be a roundabout. The only problem is that roundabouts in the USA are exceedingly rare in most of the country. There would need to be a massive education campaign for them to work for most people. There are an alarming number of Americans that think that the people already on the roundabout have to yield for the people coming on.

ak217 5y ago
It depends on the location. There are plenty of city intersections where 4-way stops are completely appropriate, and a roundabout would be impossible because it would have a much bigger footprint (and would block trucks and emergency vehicles).
- beachy 5y ago
  Some places use virtual roundabouts, where the roundabout part is simply a small painted circle on the road. Emergency vehicles can drive straight over it
  - caf 5y ago
    There's also formed roundabouts where most of it is raised but only by a small amount, so that emergency vehicles with large tires can drive straight over it but still discourages light vehicles from doing the same.

ak217 5y ago

We have a heavily trafficked roundabout in our neighborhood and it's a big hazard to pedestrians because drivers take it way too fast and fail to yield to pedestrians in the crosswalks around it. Aside from that, the roundabout is great but takes up a lot more space than an intersection would. Maybe some bumps to calm the traffic approaching the roundabout would help. The problem that I see is just insufficient respect for traffic laws. I'm not sure what to do about it, aside from more police presence.

caf 5y ago
Maybe some bumps to calm the traffic approaching the roundabout would help. Yes, that seems to be a somewhat common solution, eg: https://goo.gl/maps/XJ8SNDDrQBhBu1nH8 https://goo.gl/maps/XJ8SNDDrQBhBu1nH8

asdff 5y ago

They kinda suck because American drivers stop at roundabouts even when the sign says to yield

FireBeyond 5y ago

I do like the Australian perspective, where I learned to drive before I moved to the US. There's no concept of "right of way" on Australian roads. There's only "duty to yield". It might seem like a subtle concept/difference, but when it comes time to stand up in court/ be pulled over/ avoid an accident, it frames things better. Too many in the US are "it's my road, asshole, I got the right of way".