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How many times do human drivers need to actually stop at stop signs? Probably hundreds of millions of stop signs are rolled per day. How much more carbon is rel

by ses1984 5y ago

How many times do human drivers need to actually stop at stop signs? Probably hundreds of millions of stop signs are rolled per day. How much more carbon is released, if all of those vehicles actually came to a complete stop?

gjsman-1000 5y ago
Now consider how many people have died or been permanently injured from rolling stops. An extremely common mistake is a failed right-turn on red where the driver doesn't stop and rolls over a pedestrian in the crosswalk. And how many drivers will live with the guilt for the rest of their lives. Who cares how much carbon it saves when people get horrific injuries from it? If you want to save the planet, build intersections designed for rolling like roundabouts, crosswalks with signaling, and yield signs.
- ses1984 5y ago
  How many people have died or been permanently injured from rolling stops? There are loads of stop signs at intersections where pedestrians would rarely if ever cross, maybe it would be possible to differentiate those intersections from crosswalks.
fabianhjr 5y ago
Change 4-way stop signs for roundaubouts like most of the world. Not only does that increase throughput by allowing to yield they also increase safety by forcing a curve and avoiding frontal crashes. (Also, pedestrian crossings should and are normally set back a bit from the intersection, given some traffic calming like level crossings and a median island and have better visibility overall) "Roundabout vs. 4-way stop, which one is superior?" - Interesting Engineering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brkrYdlMCsg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brkrYdlMCsg
- xboxnolifes 5y ago
  You can't just replace every 4-way stop to a roundabout, and the "rest of the world" doesn't do so either. The vast majority of the roundabout would have to cut across residential property.
smileysteve 5y ago
This is a great argument for round abouts and yield signs. The safety of the stop sign is over stated.

gjsman-1000 5y ago

Now consider how many people have died or been permanently injured from rolling stops. An extremely common mistake is a failed right-turn on red where the driver doesn't stop and rolls over a pedestrian in the crosswalk. And how many drivers will live with the guilt for the rest of their lives. Who cares how much carbon it saves when people get horrific injuries from it? If you want to save the planet, build intersections designed for rolling like roundabouts, crosswalks with signaling, and yield signs.

ses1984 5y ago
How many people have died or been permanently injured from rolling stops? There are loads of stop signs at intersections where pedestrians would rarely if ever cross, maybe it would be possible to differentiate those intersections from crosswalks.

fabianhjr 5y ago

Change 4-way stop signs for roundaubouts like most of the world. Not only does that increase throughput by allowing to yield they also increase safety by forcing a curve and avoiding frontal crashes. (Also, pedestrian crossings should and are normally set back a bit from the intersection, given some traffic calming like level crossings and a median island and have better visibility overall) "Roundabout vs. 4-way stop, which one is superior?" - Interesting Engineering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brkrYdlMCsg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brkrYdlMCsg

xboxnolifes 5y ago
You can't just replace every 4-way stop to a roundabout, and the "rest of the world" doesn't do so either. The vast majority of the roundabout would have to cut across residential property.

smileysteve 5y ago

This is a great argument for round abouts and yield signs. The safety of the stop sign is over stated.