I agree the centralization is needed and that democratic centralization is preferable to proprietary walled garden. I disagree that democratic centralization is

I agree the centralization is needed and that democratic centralization is preferable to proprietary walled garden. I disagree that democratic centralization is sufficient - I think we also need self-hosted options even if they are marginalized by the centralized democracy - to keep it in check. This: > Just look at how many "evil" steps Facebook has taken, successfully holding on to their userbase. is orthogonal. Facebook is not democratic and does not offer a self-hosted version. And it never did. So with Facebook the question is not about what is preferable but how do we get from this worldwide tyranny to a centralized democracy with or without self-hosted alternatives. I think the facebook situation is actually an argument in favor of my position. If Facebook was a centralized democracy with self-hosted alternatives at some point - it would be much easier for people to migrate off it when it started to become evil, and it becoming evil would be significantly less likely. As for how Facebook loses now - I think eventually it will be taxed into ground/blocked by most big trading blocks/countries. There is already a lot of talk in EU of enforcing some control over social media. It holds too much power with too little control for countries to let it go forever. Facebook can (and sometimes do) change who wins elections. It can't go on like that forever.