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Universities in California are going in precisely the other direction by mandating ideological purity tests aka "diversity statements" for staff. https://whyev

Universities in California are going in precisely the other direction by mandating ideological purity tests aka "diversity statements" for staff. https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2019/11/24/uc-davis-math-professor-demonized-for-criticizing-required-diversity-statements-for-academic-jobs/ https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2019/11/24/uc-davis-math-prof...

yucky 5y ago
>mandating ideological purity tests Are we saying that its bad? I mean, I think it's bad, but it is in fact "progressive" so I dunno what the consensus is.
- animal_spirits 5y ago
  Who's to say what ideology is the "pure" ideology? If everyone is striving for one way of thinking, where is the diversity of viewpoints?
animal_spirits 5y ago
> Now clearly “diversity” here means “ethnic diversity”, but I don’t think they say that explicitly. But those applicants who propose to increase political viewpoint diversity by, say, trying to promote conservative values and accept more conservative students, are simply not going to be hired! I never thought about that before but that is an interesting point. It is not truly diversive if you can't include certain philosophies and ideologies.
- toyg 5y ago
  It's the good old paradox of open societies: can they actually tolerate the intolerant, or letting them operate will bring about their end? Open societies are constantly walking a fine line in practice.
champagnois 5y ago
It is an ideology that is sustained through censorship, faith, loyalty tests, and suppression. It is particularly amusing when it pretends to be a science and makes recommendations on how to manage your company, hiring, or engineering teams. Don't hire smart people or good engineers, they say. Get any individual that appears to be a zealot of this religion publicly to meet privately, away from microphones, and they will typically acknowledge the absurdity of it all. People are often happy to brag, gloat, and acknowledge they are just gaming the system for maximum benefit. Their willingness to disclose this to you does require trust. So, when does this end? How much damage will this do? Is this a strategy designed to divide the lower classes during a period of runaway neofuedalist inequality?

yucky 5y ago

>mandating ideological purity tests Are we saying that its bad? I mean, I think it's bad, but it is in fact "progressive" so I dunno what the consensus is.

animal_spirits 5y ago
Who's to say what ideology is the "pure" ideology? If everyone is striving for one way of thinking, where is the diversity of viewpoints?

animal_spirits 5y ago

> Now clearly “diversity” here means “ethnic diversity”, but I don’t think they say that explicitly. But those applicants who propose to increase political viewpoint diversity by, say, trying to promote conservative values and accept more conservative students, are simply not going to be hired! I never thought about that before but that is an interesting point. It is not truly diversive if you can't include certain philosophies and ideologies.

toyg 5y ago
It's the good old paradox of open societies: can they actually tolerate the intolerant, or letting them operate will bring about their end? Open societies are constantly walking a fine line in practice.

champagnois 5y ago

It is an ideology that is sustained through censorship, faith, loyalty tests, and suppression. It is particularly amusing when it pretends to be a science and makes recommendations on how to manage your company, hiring, or engineering teams. Don't hire smart people or good engineers, they say. Get any individual that appears to be a zealot of this religion publicly to meet privately, away from microphones, and they will typically acknowledge the absurdity of it all. People are often happy to brag, gloat, and acknowledge they are just gaming the system for maximum benefit. Their willingness to disclose this to you does require trust. So, when does this end? How much damage will this do? Is this a strategy designed to divide the lower classes during a period of runaway neofuedalist inequality?