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You can check numbeo for this. For me this was NEVER relevant. Only what mattered was disposable income.

heurisko 5y ago
I find databases regarding cost of living to go quickly out of date. But looking at Graz, Austria, a 80,000, even if gross, euro salary would provide a very good standard of living. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Graz https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Graz
- mathverse 5y ago
  Who wants to live in Graz?
  - heurisko 5y ago
    There have been a few high profile security papers come from Graz university of technology and they seem to want to invest in the city as a security hub. https://cybersecurity-campus.tugraz.at https://cybersecurity-campus.tugraz.at
    - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
      >There have been a few high profile security papers come from Graz university of technology and they seem to want to invest in the city as a security hub. Graz is an amazing city for quality of life, nature and socializing, and is great if you want to be employed in academia your whole life. On the IT careers side, it's a wasteland of conservative hardware/automotive companies and IT service companies(cost centers) that only deal with the local market, or at best the DACH zone, and is therefore worse on pay than some Eastern European cities that deal with the international scene (Krakow, Warsaw, Bucharest, Cluj). Almost no product based IT companies who deal internationally. Most tech jobs in Austria are where the money and infrastructure is, Vienna. >a security hub https://cybersecurity-campus.tugraz.at https://cybersecurity-campus.tugraz.at Outside of a handful of low-paid TU students and post-docs(basically academia), I think I can count the number of people employed there, on the fingers of my hand. AFAIK they aren't hiring anyone at the moment. Other of massive PR, no job openings, no investments, no tech companies and nothing significant materialized from that, just a few partnerships for PhD/research positions. Hardly a "security hub". A hub would mean you have a cluster of multiple private companies hiring people there to work on commercial solutions alongside research partnerships with universities. That's not what's happened.

I find databases regarding cost of living to go quickly out of date. But looking at Graz, Austria, a 80,000, even if gross, euro salary would provide a very good standard of living. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Graz https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Graz

mathverse 5y ago
Who wants to live in Graz?
- heurisko 5y ago
  There have been a few high profile security papers come from Graz university of technology and they seem to want to invest in the city as a security hub. https://cybersecurity-campus.tugraz.at https://cybersecurity-campus.tugraz.at
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    >There have been a few high profile security papers come from Graz university of technology and they seem to want to invest in the city as a security hub. Graz is an amazing city for quality of life, nature and socializing, and is great if you want to be employed in academia your whole life. On the IT careers side, it's a wasteland of conservative hardware/automotive companies and IT service companies(cost centers) that only deal with the local market, or at best the DACH zone, and is therefore worse on pay than some Eastern European cities that deal with the international scene (Krakow, Warsaw, Bucharest, Cluj). Almost no product based IT companies who deal internationally. Most tech jobs in Austria are where the money and infrastructure is, Vienna. >a security hub https://cybersecurity-campus.tugraz.at https://cybersecurity-campus.tugraz.at Outside of a handful of low-paid TU students and post-docs(basically academia), I think I can count the number of people employed there, on the fingers of my hand. AFAIK they aren't hiring anyone at the moment. Other of massive PR, no job openings, no investments, no tech companies and nothing significant materialized from that, just a few partnerships for PhD/research positions. Hardly a "security hub". A hub would mean you have a cluster of multiple private companies hiring people there to work on commercial solutions alongside research partnerships with universities. That's not what's happened.