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They will give up on this in 9 months

by reiichiroh 5y ago

runiq 5y ago
Well, I mean, technically, 9 months in the future is still in the future, so…
- achow 5y ago
  Well, considering the hardware release cycles are approx' 12 months (from Apple, Samsung et al), 9 months is really not in future.
Victerius 5y ago
I may not be the target market for this product, but I've never owned a tablet. I have a smartphone, a gaming PC, a fourth gen console, but I've never been interested in acquiring a tablet. Tablets can't fit into my pocket, nor do they have the processing power or the resolution of a full fledged computer.
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  I own a couple of tablets, but once I got a Chromebook, largely gave up on using them.
  - searchableguy 5y ago
    Which chromebook do you own? I was looking at duet 5 and upcoming smaller duet because both have an oled display and a decent processor for a chromebook. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-ideapad-duet-5-13-3-oled-chromebook-snapdragon-sc7180-qualcomm-adreno-graphics-8gb-memory-128gb-ssd-abyss-blue/6477625.p https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-ideapad-duet-5-13-3-oled...
    - MattGaiser 5y ago
      I have one of this: https://www.amazon.ca/Asus-ASUS-Intel-Dual-Core-Celeron/dp/B082L3VK13/ref=asc_df_B082L3VK13/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459413596452&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10981587544304804605&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001338&hvtargid=pla-1485539207415&psc=1 https://www.amazon.ca/Asus-ASUS-Intel-Dual-Core-Celeron/dp/B... Do not really recommend it. I just bought it as I didn't want to take my brand new gaming laptop or my laptop with my files on a trip into somewhat sketchy places. As an FYI, if you are going to buy that Lenovo, buy it directly and use Rakuten to get a substantial discount.
- vorpalhex 5y ago
  Right now, tablets are mobile consumption devices. Great for reading, looking at comics, playing light games or watching a movie. Obviously, a lot of people aren't really leaving their house so the tablet use case is a bit moot.. But if you are in the habit of popping to the coffee shop or trying to make use of your time on the train or an airplane, they're pretty handy. Sure, you can bring a whole laptop, but that's just larger and takes up more room. The tablet is easy to slip in and out of a bag and have it on instantly. In theory, tablets should be good for light work too. Note taking, drawing and sketching, etc. In practice, neither ecosystem supports this very well - you can take a note or make a drawing, but you can't _do_ anything with the output. There's no sending your diagram to a pc for meaningful usage or integrating your note with your actual knowledgebase. The tablets are too locked down.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Or just bring a 13 inch hybrid laptop (2-1).
  - jitl 5y ago
    I know more tablet owners who do at least half of their work on their tablet, than I know tablet owners that only use tablets for entertainment/“consumption”. Some examples: (1) a VP of Engineering, (2) a designer/creative software engineer, (3) a teacher, (4) a documentary film maker. > There's no sending your diagram to a pc for meaningful usage This is two taps on iPad in most apps: tap share, then tap the Airdrop icon for your laptop or other device. > integrating your note with your actual knowledgebase Notion, Quip, Google Docs, Coda, Microsoft Office all run fine on iPad.
    - vorpalhex 5y ago
      Sharing actions are limited. It depends on output and not all apps share well. Sharing is also 1:1. There is no "master these pages and share out a few pages". On notes: 1. Notion doesn't have offline support, mobile exports don't work last I tried, no printing or sharing. Notion is block based, making it not appropriate for notes. 2. Quip is just a bad app. It's also a block based editor, and an office suite, making it inappropriate for notes. 3. Google docs is a word processor/office suite, not a note taking app. It has severe, severe lag past about 30 or 40 pages which renders it unusable. It has very broken behavior when you paste formatted text. 4. No experience with coda 5. Microsoft office is an office suite. It has the same general problems as Google Docs. A note taking app, must: + Flow text correctly (not block based) + Handle copying and pasting correctly without barfing my formatting + Work offline. My notes are not useful if I can only get to them when I have internet. + Not be a word processor. Word processors are designed to format documents, not capture information quickly. Using a word proccessor for notes is like using the photoshop text tool to write essays. + It should handle and operate on a directory of files. I do not have one note. I have several hundred. Even a modest project is going to have a few note files. + It should load instantly and have no lag.The tradeoff is that you get less features. Examples of note taking apps on the iPad are Bear, Notes, Obsidian, and I think Joplin has a port.
- LeoPanthera 5y ago
  > nor do they have the processing power or the resolution of a full fledged computer Doesn't that depend on the tablet? The iPad Pro has an M1 inside it.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Which you can only take full advantage of when using a Mac Air.
    - jitl 5y ago
      What does “full advantage” mean to you? That you can run a C compiler? Unsigned binaries? Root file system access? Crypto coin mining? Is it the App Store rules that prevent you from using 100% of this CPU?
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        I let you figure out what iPadOS vs macOS offer in that regard.
- kingcharles 5y ago
  Don't knock it till you try it. I loved my iPad. It changed my evenings in bed completely.
- eadmund 5y ago
  My Nexus 7 & Nexus 9 could fit in my jeans pocket (while walking — I would never have sat down with them). They were great for reading ebooks at a bar or on an æroplane, or for watching TV while playing a video game (my desk at the time had a keyboard tray; I could prop the tablet on the keyboard, leaning against the desk surface). They were also great for my weekly roleplaying game; I had a character stat record I could easily refer to. I miss them a lot, and really wish that there were a modern Nexus or Pixel tablet. They filled a computing slot I currently have unfilled; a phone, even a large one, is nowhere near as good at any of the tasks I used my tablet for.

They will give up on this in 9 months

runiq 5y ago

Well, I mean, technically, 9 months in the future is still in the future, so…

achow 5y ago
Well, considering the hardware release cycles are approx' 12 months (from Apple, Samsung et al), 9 months is really not in future.

Victerius 5y ago

I may not be the target market for this product, but I've never owned a tablet. I have a smartphone, a gaming PC, a fourth gen console, but I've never been interested in acquiring a tablet. Tablets can't fit into my pocket, nor do they have the processing power or the resolution of a full fledged computer.

MattGaiser 5y ago
I own a couple of tablets, but once I got a Chromebook, largely gave up on using them.
- searchableguy 5y ago
  Which chromebook do you own? I was looking at duet 5 and upcoming smaller duet because both have an oled display and a decent processor for a chromebook. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-ideapad-duet-5-13-3-oled-chromebook-snapdragon-sc7180-qualcomm-adreno-graphics-8gb-memory-128gb-ssd-abyss-blue/6477625.p https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-ideapad-duet-5-13-3-oled...
  - MattGaiser 5y ago
    I have one of this: https://www.amazon.ca/Asus-ASUS-Intel-Dual-Core-Celeron/dp/B082L3VK13/ref=asc_df_B082L3VK13/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459413596452&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10981587544304804605&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001338&hvtargid=pla-1485539207415&psc=1 https://www.amazon.ca/Asus-ASUS-Intel-Dual-Core-Celeron/dp/B... Do not really recommend it. I just bought it as I didn't want to take my brand new gaming laptop or my laptop with my files on a trip into somewhat sketchy places. As an FYI, if you are going to buy that Lenovo, buy it directly and use Rakuten to get a substantial discount.
vorpalhex 5y ago
Right now, tablets are mobile consumption devices. Great for reading, looking at comics, playing light games or watching a movie. Obviously, a lot of people aren't really leaving their house so the tablet use case is a bit moot.. But if you are in the habit of popping to the coffee shop or trying to make use of your time on the train or an airplane, they're pretty handy. Sure, you can bring a whole laptop, but that's just larger and takes up more room. The tablet is easy to slip in and out of a bag and have it on instantly. In theory, tablets should be good for light work too. Note taking, drawing and sketching, etc. In practice, neither ecosystem supports this very well - you can take a note or make a drawing, but you can't _do_ anything with the output. There's no sending your diagram to a pc for meaningful usage or integrating your note with your actual knowledgebase. The tablets are too locked down.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Or just bring a 13 inch hybrid laptop (2-1).
- jitl 5y ago
  I know more tablet owners who do at least half of their work on their tablet, than I know tablet owners that only use tablets for entertainment/“consumption”. Some examples: (1) a VP of Engineering, (2) a designer/creative software engineer, (3) a teacher, (4) a documentary film maker. > There's no sending your diagram to a pc for meaningful usage This is two taps on iPad in most apps: tap share, then tap the Airdrop icon for your laptop or other device. > integrating your note with your actual knowledgebase Notion, Quip, Google Docs, Coda, Microsoft Office all run fine on iPad.
  - vorpalhex 5y ago
    Sharing actions are limited. It depends on output and not all apps share well. Sharing is also 1:1. There is no "master these pages and share out a few pages". On notes: 1. Notion doesn't have offline support, mobile exports don't work last I tried, no printing or sharing. Notion is block based, making it not appropriate for notes. 2. Quip is just a bad app. It's also a block based editor, and an office suite, making it inappropriate for notes. 3. Google docs is a word processor/office suite, not a note taking app. It has severe, severe lag past about 30 or 40 pages which renders it unusable. It has very broken behavior when you paste formatted text. 4. No experience with coda 5. Microsoft office is an office suite. It has the same general problems as Google Docs. A note taking app, must: + Flow text correctly (not block based) + Handle copying and pasting correctly without barfing my formatting + Work offline. My notes are not useful if I can only get to them when I have internet. + Not be a word processor. Word processors are designed to format documents, not capture information quickly. Using a word proccessor for notes is like using the photoshop text tool to write essays. + It should handle and operate on a directory of files. I do not have one note. I have several hundred. Even a modest project is going to have a few note files. + It should load instantly and have no lag.The tradeoff is that you get less features. Examples of note taking apps on the iPad are Bear, Notes, Obsidian, and I think Joplin has a port.
LeoPanthera 5y ago
> nor do they have the processing power or the resolution of a full fledged computer Doesn't that depend on the tablet? The iPad Pro has an M1 inside it.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Which you can only take full advantage of when using a Mac Air.
  - jitl 5y ago
    What does “full advantage” mean to you? That you can run a C compiler? Unsigned binaries? Root file system access? Crypto coin mining? Is it the App Store rules that prevent you from using 100% of this CPU?
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      I let you figure out what iPadOS vs macOS offer in that regard.
kingcharles 5y ago
Don't knock it till you try it. I loved my iPad. It changed my evenings in bed completely.
eadmund 5y ago
My Nexus 7 & Nexus 9 could fit in my jeans pocket (while walking — I would never have sat down with them). They were great for reading ebooks at a bar or on an æroplane, or for watching TV while playing a video game (my desk at the time had a keyboard tray; I could prop the tablet on the keyboard, leaning against the desk surface). They were also great for my weekly roleplaying game; I had a character stat record I could easily refer to. I miss them a lot, and really wish that there were a modern Nexus or Pixel tablet. They filled a computing slot I currently have unfilled; a phone, even a large one, is nowhere near as good at any of the tasks I used my tablet for.