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Ditto!

AA-BA-94-2A-56 5y ago
At the risk of adding heaps of low effort replies, I've been waiting for my @duck address since it came out. Can someone please forward me one if they have one spare?
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  There are a lot of reasons you should a custom domain instead. What happens if they shut down this service and all your important accounts are using the duck domain?
  - Vinnl 5y ago
    I'd primarily use a service like this for the heaps of non-important accounts/mailinglists, e.g. if you're planning to make just a single transaction with a service. The advantage of not using a custom domain is that your different email addresses can't be cross-referenced, spammers can't just guess additional emails with which to reach you, and that you avoid the risk of leaking personal information via the domain. (Disclosure: I work on Firefox Relay and also use my own custom domain with a catchall.)
    - encryptluks2 5y ago
      I meant use a custom domain with SimpleLogin or similar so you get the random email aliases but the same benefits of an anonymous email forwarder. You'd be surprised how many people think an account is not important until it is.
      - Vinnl 5y ago
        Yes, I do use that ("and also use my own custom domain"); I specifically mentioned a couple of benefits of an anonymous email forwarder with a shared domain that you do not get with your custom domain? To reiterate: - different email addresses can't be cross-referenced - spammers can't guess additional emails to reach you at - no risk of leaking personal information via the domain I appreciate that there's definitely a risk in adding a third party, but I think it's clear that there's also benefits of a shared domain, making it a trade-off? (Oh, and to be fair, with a custom domain there's a relatively similar risk: it's relatively easy to lose control of a domain.)
        encryptluks2 5y ago
        You are not explaining how different email addresses can be cross-referenced with a custom domain or how spammers can guess additional emails to reach you. Use a subdomain then for your email aliases. The risk of leaking personal information via a domain is the same risk as giving your real name when you signup for a service, or use your real name when you send emails. Most registrar solutions have a proxy WHOIS and if someone serves a court order to get your real name they are just as likely to get it from your registrar as they are a third-party company. Losing a custom domain is about as risky as picking a shady registrar, doing illegal things which will get you banned from an alias service if they are getting subpoenaed about your illegal stuff, or not paying your bill. I still think it is inherently better than an regular alias domain which is much more likely to get blacklisted than a custom domain.
        Vinnl 5y ago
        > You are not explaining how different email addresses can be cross-referenced with a custom domain or how spammers can guess additional emails to reach you. Oh sure, I can do that! So for me, one reason to use aliases is to be able to trace who leaked my email. However, it's pretty obvious if my email address is news.ycombinator.com@mydomain.com, that everything @mydomain.com is going to me. (And possibly, but I'm not an expert on this, if you use a service that handles that for you, it might even be automatically detectable via my MX records?) And if you know that, you can both know that facebook.com@mydomain.com is also me, and that you can send me an email at whatever@mydomain.com to also reach me. Whereas if my email address is, say, sd4k23@mozmail.com, then you can't know my other random aliases, while I'm still able to see who I gave that email address to via the relay.firefox.com dashboard. > The risk of leaking personal information via a domain is the same risk as giving your real name when you signup for a service, or use your real name when you send emails. Yep! I'm just saying that minimising the opportunities for me to make a mistake is a benefit. Note that I'm not saying you should switch to a service like this; I'm just trying to show why I've started using both: my custom domain for sensitive services, and Relay for one-offs/few-offs (e.g. if I just want to get a coupon code or something).
        5y ago

Ditto!

At the risk of adding heaps of low effort replies, I've been waiting for my @duck address since it came out. Can someone please forward me one if they have one spare?

encryptluks2 5y ago
There are a lot of reasons you should a custom domain instead. What happens if they shut down this service and all your important accounts are using the duck domain?
- Vinnl 5y ago
  I'd primarily use a service like this for the heaps of non-important accounts/mailinglists, e.g. if you're planning to make just a single transaction with a service. The advantage of not using a custom domain is that your different email addresses can't be cross-referenced, spammers can't just guess additional emails with which to reach you, and that you avoid the risk of leaking personal information via the domain. (Disclosure: I work on Firefox Relay and also use my own custom domain with a catchall.)
  - encryptluks2 5y ago
    I meant use a custom domain with SimpleLogin or similar so you get the random email aliases but the same benefits of an anonymous email forwarder. You'd be surprised how many people think an account is not important until it is.
    - Vinnl 5y ago
      Yes, I do use that ("and also use my own custom domain"); I specifically mentioned a couple of benefits of an anonymous email forwarder with a shared domain that you do not get with your custom domain? To reiterate: - different email addresses can't be cross-referenced - spammers can't guess additional emails to reach you at - no risk of leaking personal information via the domain I appreciate that there's definitely a risk in adding a third party, but I think it's clear that there's also benefits of a shared domain, making it a trade-off? (Oh, and to be fair, with a custom domain there's a relatively similar risk: it's relatively easy to lose control of a domain.)
      - encryptluks2 5y ago
        You are not explaining how different email addresses can be cross-referenced with a custom domain or how spammers can guess additional emails to reach you. Use a subdomain then for your email aliases. The risk of leaking personal information via a domain is the same risk as giving your real name when you signup for a service, or use your real name when you send emails. Most registrar solutions have a proxy WHOIS and if someone serves a court order to get your real name they are just as likely to get it from your registrar as they are a third-party company. Losing a custom domain is about as risky as picking a shady registrar, doing illegal things which will get you banned from an alias service if they are getting subpoenaed about your illegal stuff, or not paying your bill. I still think it is inherently better than an regular alias domain which is much more likely to get blacklisted than a custom domain.
        Vinnl 5y ago
        > You are not explaining how different email addresses can be cross-referenced with a custom domain or how spammers can guess additional emails to reach you. Oh sure, I can do that! So for me, one reason to use aliases is to be able to trace who leaked my email. However, it's pretty obvious if my email address is news.ycombinator.com@mydomain.com, that everything @mydomain.com is going to me. (And possibly, but I'm not an expert on this, if you use a service that handles that for you, it might even be automatically detectable via my MX records?) And if you know that, you can both know that facebook.com@mydomain.com is also me, and that you can send me an email at whatever@mydomain.com to also reach me. Whereas if my email address is, say, sd4k23@mozmail.com, then you can't know my other random aliases, while I'm still able to see who I gave that email address to via the relay.firefox.com dashboard. > The risk of leaking personal information via a domain is the same risk as giving your real name when you signup for a service, or use your real name when you send emails. Yep! I'm just saying that minimising the opportunities for me to make a mistake is a benefit. Note that I'm not saying you should switch to a service like this; I'm just trying to show why I've started using both: my custom domain for sensitive services, and Relay for one-offs/few-offs (e.g. if I just want to get a coupon code or something).
        5y ago