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So it's like CJDNS? Looking at the FAQ, is answers to this question. In short, it's inspired by CJDNS, but doesn't use supernodes.

by jMyles 5y ago

Karrot_Kream 5y ago
Yes. It's broadly considered a successor to CJDNS.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  I was not aware CJDNS was unmaintained (or considered archaic). Do you have a resource comparing CJDNS, Yggdrasil, Zeronet and maybe other similar protocol? Bonus points if there's mentions of possibilities for interoperability (or incompatibilities) between these networks, and/or discussion about the shortcomings pointed out by the matrix people when developing their Pinecone routing scheme.
  - Karrot_Kream 5y ago
    > I was not aware CJDNS was unmaintained (or considered archaic). It seems (for some definition of seem lol) that more mindshare these days is around Ygg. CJDNS's author is working on something else at the moment primarily, and while they're still committed to working on CJDNS, their attention is split. Ygg is getting regular changes. Ygg's codebase being in Go also makes it a bit easier to get contributions in. But keep in mind that this may just be biased based on the circles I'm spending time in. > Do you have a resource comparing CJDNS, Yggdrasil, Zeronet and maybe other similar protocol? I wish I did. This would be a great thing to put together. Maybe I should spend some time properly comparing the two.
1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
It is "a cjdns clone with different routing".^1 Original cjdns did not have supernodes. When the author began contributing to cjdns had supernodes been added yet. 1. https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/2019/01/09/history.html https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/2019/01/09/history.html I first learned of cjdns from a video I saw on YouTube in 2012.^2 I was impressed by this person being interviewed. He described the most fundamental problems with the internet in plain English anyone could understand and he actually had a working solution! The interviewer however did not seem to understand what the author was talking about. :) 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zINQYkl01N8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zINQYkl01N8
- jMyles 5y ago
  > The interviewer however did not seem to understand what the author was talking about. :) Heh, I'm not sure if you realize this and are teasing me, but I'm the interviewer in that video! :-) (or at least, a version of me that existed 10 years ago; amazing that it's been that long)
  - 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
    I'm teasing. :) I thought it was a reasonably good interview, he was allowed to say what he wanted to say. Thanks for doing that. I always wondered, was that the first time the project was announced publicly?
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  Not only that but the interviewer came across as incredibly rude. Made the interview awkward.
  - jMyles 5y ago
    Which part(s) did you think were rude?
    - encryptluks2 5y ago
      26:32 in the interview. The interviewer was dismissive of this very talented developer and the developer just falls silent because they made the moment awkward.

So it's like CJDNS? Looking at the FAQ, is answers to this question. In short, it's inspired by CJDNS, but doesn't use supernodes.

by jMyles 5y ago

So it's like CJDNS? Looking at the FAQ, is answers to this question. In short, it's inspired by CJDNS, but doesn't use supernodes.

Karrot_Kream 5y ago

Yes. It's broadly considered a successor to CJDNS.

southerntofu 5y ago
I was not aware CJDNS was unmaintained (or considered archaic). Do you have a resource comparing CJDNS, Yggdrasil, Zeronet and maybe other similar protocol? Bonus points if there's mentions of possibilities for interoperability (or incompatibilities) between these networks, and/or discussion about the shortcomings pointed out by the matrix people when developing their Pinecone routing scheme.
- Karrot_Kream 5y ago
  > I was not aware CJDNS was unmaintained (or considered archaic). It seems (for some definition of seem lol) that more mindshare these days is around Ygg. CJDNS's author is working on something else at the moment primarily, and while they're still committed to working on CJDNS, their attention is split. Ygg is getting regular changes. Ygg's codebase being in Go also makes it a bit easier to get contributions in. But keep in mind that this may just be biased based on the circles I'm spending time in. > Do you have a resource comparing CJDNS, Yggdrasil, Zeronet and maybe other similar protocol? I wish I did. This would be a great thing to put together. Maybe I should spend some time properly comparing the two.

1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago

It is "a cjdns clone with different routing".^1 Original cjdns did not have supernodes. When the author began contributing to cjdns had supernodes been added yet. 1. https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/2019/01/09/history.html https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/2019/01/09/history.html I first learned of cjdns from a video I saw on YouTube in 2012.^2 I was impressed by this person being interviewed. He described the most fundamental problems with the internet in plain English anyone could understand and he actually had a working solution! The interviewer however did not seem to understand what the author was talking about. :) 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zINQYkl01N8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zINQYkl01N8

jMyles 5y ago
> The interviewer however did not seem to understand what the author was talking about. :) Heh, I'm not sure if you realize this and are teasing me, but I'm the interviewer in that video! :-) (or at least, a version of me that existed 10 years ago; amazing that it's been that long)
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
  I'm teasing. :) I thought it was a reasonably good interview, he was allowed to say what he wanted to say. Thanks for doing that. I always wondered, was that the first time the project was announced publicly?
encryptluks2 5y ago
Not only that but the interviewer came across as incredibly rude. Made the interview awkward.
- jMyles 5y ago
  Which part(s) did you think were rude?
  - encryptluks2 5y ago
    26:32 in the interview. The interviewer was dismissive of this very talented developer and the developer just falls silent because they made the moment awkward.