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Ad networks run code on my system in order to render an advert. I block this as I did not consent to this, as the practices are abusive and go beyond the render

by movedx 5y ago

Ad networks run code on my system in order to render an advert. I block this as I did not consent to this, as the practices are abusive and go beyond the rendering of the advert (privacy concerns, big brother, censorship, etc.) Not wanting to have something imposed upon me without my permission, and not having the ability to first accept or reject a website's TOS before entering, means I have to assume the worst case (malware, malicious intent, bad practices, etc.) and therefore protect my self ahead of time. This is not piracy because I didn't know there were going to be adverts in the first place. And what adverts would have rendered were stopped by an adblocker or script blocker because I have to assume the worst will happen. I'm saying it's not piracy because it's (digital) self defense. It's assuming the worst going into a website, putting up defenses to protect against that worst case scenario, and the side effect of that is the website's revenue source is blocked. Sorry, not sorry. Find a better way of telling me about your products and services that doesn't mean I'm opening my self up to a good old fashioned digital screwing over.

esyir 5y ago
That's a lot of text to rationalise it to yourself. It's at least in the spirit of piracy, and that's OK.
- movedx 5y ago
  Now you're just being childish :-)
  - esyir 5y ago
    In the end, it breaks down like this. AD (Youtube) Youtube says watch AD, then I'll give you the video. Pirate/Contested term: I will technologically circumvent the process and take the video anyway. Traditional piracy: Store says give money, then I'll give you the video Pirate: I will technologically circumvent the process and take the video anyway. The only difference here is that the "payment" is cash in one case, and an ad view in the other. Both cases deal with the same output, both put a barrier around the content, and both cases get that barrier circumvented via technological means that allow access to non-scarce content. The most charitable I can be here, is that "it's really really close, but because it's not explicit monetary payment, it's not piracy". But that's just playing word games. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck, or some close relative of said waterfowl. There's no shame in admitting that. I happily adblock too, but I'm not going to pretend I'm doing some virtuous deed by rising against the man to block an ad. I'm blocking them cause I don't like the inconveniences and issues with ads, and to hell with the creators ad revenue. So yes, I do think that those who skirt around that definition and rage at that are largely just trying to rationalize it with themselves.

by movedx 5y ago

esyir 5y ago

That's a lot of text to rationalise it to yourself. It's at least in the spirit of piracy, and that's OK.

movedx 5y ago
Now you're just being childish :-)
- esyir 5y ago
  In the end, it breaks down like this. AD (Youtube) Youtube says watch AD, then I'll give you the video. Pirate/Contested term: I will technologically circumvent the process and take the video anyway. Traditional piracy: Store says give money, then I'll give you the video Pirate: I will technologically circumvent the process and take the video anyway. The only difference here is that the "payment" is cash in one case, and an ad view in the other. Both cases deal with the same output, both put a barrier around the content, and both cases get that barrier circumvented via technological means that allow access to non-scarce content. The most charitable I can be here, is that "it's really really close, but because it's not explicit monetary payment, it's not piracy". But that's just playing word games. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck, or some close relative of said waterfowl. There's no shame in admitting that. I happily adblock too, but I'm not going to pretend I'm doing some virtuous deed by rising against the man to block an ad. I'm blocking them cause I don't like the inconveniences and issues with ads, and to hell with the creators ad revenue. So yes, I do think that those who skirt around that definition and rage at that are largely just trying to rationalize it with themselves.