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"the only good Brit soldier is a deed one, burn auld fella buuuuurn"

singularity2001 5y ago
In Germany you are not even allowed to print "Soldiers are murderers" on your T-shirt, which makes me angry every time I think about it. How about "historically and statistically soldiers have a tendency to be rapists, torturers and manslaughterers"?
- vintermann 5y ago
  " 1. Assuming that under a just war theory, a just war can AT MOST be just for one of the warring sides 2. big armies aren't any more likely to fight just wars than small armies We can conclude that if you're a soldier in a war, there's a better than even chance that it is unjust, and deserters are on average more honorable than soldiers." Admittedly less catchy.
krick 5y ago
What I find the most remarkable about this thing is that if you dismiss the spelling and the overall style of it, it is kind of valid political statement that some people could totally relate to. Which is to prove once more, that modern Britain or USA or whatever else is essentially no different from the demonized images of "totalitarian Russia" or Third Reich, NK... — pick your favorite. And it's pretty much always been like that, sometimes a bit colder, sometimes a bit hotter.
- mlyle 5y ago
  > that modern Britain or USA or whatever else is essentially no different from the demonized images of "totalitarian Russia" or Third Reich, NK.. Uh, there's a matter of degree. In the US, that'd be protected political speech. The most one could expect is scorn. The UK may have a lesser speech protection than the US, but still a much broader set of political speech is allowed than in Russia or NK.
  - perryizgr8 5y ago
    > there's a matter of degree. The degree gap is usually quick to be bridged, via this common anti-fallacy called "slippery slope". Give it a few more years.
    - mlyle 5y ago
      > The degree gap is usually quick to be bridged, via this common anti-fallacy called "slippery slope". Give it a few more years. That's kinda a silly argument, given that free speech rights have generally increased in the UK in the last few decades. Slippery slopes are good to be aware of, and hope to avoid. They aren't inevitable. Things don't progress constantly towards the worst possible state.
- moron4hire 5y ago
  I imagine the spelling is an affectation of a Scottish accent.
  - scarby2 5y ago
    It's written in Scots which is considered both a dialect and as a separate language (though there's not really a difference) https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/deid https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/deid (also deed) https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/auld https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/auld https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language Just the accent would be covered by: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_English
    - LAC-Tech 5y ago
      I feel like that's more Scottish English than genuine Scots, but not an expert.

singularity2001 5y ago

In Germany you are not even allowed to print "Soldiers are murderers" on your T-shirt, which makes me angry every time I think about it. How about "historically and statistically soldiers have a tendency to be rapists, torturers and manslaughterers"?

vintermann 5y ago
" 1. Assuming that under a just war theory, a just war can AT MOST be just for one of the warring sides 2. big armies aren't any more likely to fight just wars than small armies We can conclude that if you're a soldier in a war, there's a better than even chance that it is unjust, and deserters are on average more honorable than soldiers." Admittedly less catchy.

krick 5y ago

What I find the most remarkable about this thing is that if you dismiss the spelling and the overall style of it, it is kind of valid political statement that some people could totally relate to. Which is to prove once more, that modern Britain or USA or whatever else is essentially no different from the demonized images of "totalitarian Russia" or Third Reich, NK... — pick your favorite. And it's pretty much always been like that, sometimes a bit colder, sometimes a bit hotter.

mlyle 5y ago
> that modern Britain or USA or whatever else is essentially no different from the demonized images of "totalitarian Russia" or Third Reich, NK.. Uh, there's a matter of degree. In the US, that'd be protected political speech. The most one could expect is scorn. The UK may have a lesser speech protection than the US, but still a much broader set of political speech is allowed than in Russia or NK.
- perryizgr8 5y ago
  > there's a matter of degree. The degree gap is usually quick to be bridged, via this common anti-fallacy called "slippery slope". Give it a few more years.
  - mlyle 5y ago
    > The degree gap is usually quick to be bridged, via this common anti-fallacy called "slippery slope". Give it a few more years. That's kinda a silly argument, given that free speech rights have generally increased in the UK in the last few decades. Slippery slopes are good to be aware of, and hope to avoid. They aren't inevitable. Things don't progress constantly towards the worst possible state.
moron4hire 5y ago
I imagine the spelling is an affectation of a Scottish accent.
- scarby2 5y ago
  It's written in Scots which is considered both a dialect and as a separate language (though there's not really a difference) https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/deid https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/deid (also deed) https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/auld https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/auld https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language Just the accent would be covered by: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_English
  - LAC-Tech 5y ago
    I feel like that's more Scottish English than genuine Scots, but not an expert.