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You think that solving your problems requires better machines with more sophistication, which I disagree strongly on. If you're intent is to convince me, save

You think that solving your problems requires better machines with more sophistication, which I disagree strongly on. If you're intent is to convince me, save yourself the effort. I'll state what I said one more time, with a little emphasis this time: > teach themselves to fend these things off, in fact I think its the only thing that works.

shadowgovt 5y ago
""" “But you are telling me, Susan, that the ‘Society for Humanity’ is right; and that Mankind has lost its own say in its future.” “It never had any, really. It was always at the mercy of economic and sociological forces it did not understand — at the whims of climate, and the fortunes of war. Now the Machines understand them; and no one can stop them, since the Machines will deal with them as they are dealing with the Society, — having, as they do, the greatest of weapons at their disposal, the absolute control of our economy.” “How horrible!” “Perhaps how wonderful! Think, that for all time, all conflicts are finally evitable. Only the Machines, from now on, are inevitable!” And the fire behind the quartz went out and only a curl of smoke was left to indicate its place. """ Asimov, Isaac. "I, Robot". pp. 147-148. Available online: http://ekladata.com/-Byix64G_NtE0xI4A6PA1--o1Hc/Asimov-Isaac-I-Robot.pdf http://ekladata.com/-Byix64G_NtE0xI4A6PA1--o1Hc/Asimov-Isaac...
emn13 5y ago
Honest question for the purposes of being able to express myself more clearly next time: what makes you believe I think better machines with more sophistication are the answer? I get the feeling (and that's fine!) you're uninterested in detailed argumentation whether in support of your position or analysis of mine; I won't try to drag you into a flame war - but I simply don't understand your response. I must have said something that triggered this belief; if you're willing to point out what I said that could be read that way, I'd appreciate it. After all, being misunderstood is a waste everyone's time.

shadowgovt 5y ago

""" “But you are telling me, Susan, that the ‘Society for Humanity’ is right; and that Mankind has lost its own say in its future.” “It never had any, really. It was always at the mercy of economic and sociological forces it did not understand — at the whims of climate, and the fortunes of war. Now the Machines understand them; and no one can stop them, since the Machines will deal with them as they are dealing with the Society, — having, as they do, the greatest of weapons at their disposal, the absolute control of our economy.” “How horrible!” “Perhaps how wonderful! Think, that for all time, all conflicts are finally evitable. Only the Machines, from now on, are inevitable!” And the fire behind the quartz went out and only a curl of smoke was left to indicate its place. """ Asimov, Isaac. "I, Robot". pp. 147-148. Available online: http://ekladata.com/-Byix64G_NtE0xI4A6PA1--o1Hc/Asimov-Isaac-I-Robot.pdf http://ekladata.com/-Byix64G_NtE0xI4A6PA1--o1Hc/Asimov-Isaac...

emn13 5y ago

Honest question for the purposes of being able to express myself more clearly next time: what makes you believe I think better machines with more sophistication are the answer? I get the feeling (and that's fine!) you're uninterested in detailed argumentation whether in support of your position or analysis of mine; I won't try to drag you into a flame war - but I simply don't understand your response. I must have said something that triggered this belief; if you're willing to point out what I said that could be read that way, I'd appreciate it. After all, being misunderstood is a waste everyone's time.