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> https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#how-does-qubes-os-compare-to-using-a-separate-physical-machine https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#how-does-qubes-os-compare-to-u...

> https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#how-does-qubes-os-compare-to-using-a-separate-physical-machine https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#how-does-qubes-os-compare-to-u... I don't really buy the arguments given there. All but the first of the 'cons' listed regarding physical separation apply equally well to virtual machines. There is a link to a longer paper; I will read it later; perhaps it has more compelling arguments. > expensive Most people are using phones and computers that cost hundreds of dollars. The cheapest raspberry pi is, what, $5? Getting a few of those would not be prohibitive for many people. > very cumbersome That is true, but we can do something about it. How cumbersome was it to habitually run software in vms, before qubes?

fsflover 5y ago
>> very cumbersome > That is true, but we can do something about it. Perhaps we can use Qubes Air for that: https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/22/qubes-air/ https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/22/qubes-air/. But I doubt that normal people will be able to do any of that any time soon. Even Qubes is not convenient enough for them now. See also: https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/how-to-pitch-qubes-os/4499/16 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/how-to-pitch-qubes-os/4499/16
moonchild 5y ago
> The cheapest raspberry pi is, what, $5? Getting a few of those would not be prohibitive for many people I have been informed that raspberry pis are hard to come by and are now retailing for close to $50. They have historically been cheap, and many other electronics are currently also quite expensive due to extenuating global factors; it seems likely that they will return to historical prices within low 1s of years.