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Man, I am kinda shocked not so much that this is a thing but seems to be a bona fide _movement_. It's highly interesting but my one job keeps me more than busy

Man, I am kinda shocked not so much that this is a thing but seems to be a bona fide _movement_. It's highly interesting but my one job keeps me more than busy enough, thankyouverymuch. Edit: A few other thoughts I had since hitting submit: 1. It feels to me like the most challenging part of living a double working life is making sure your mandatory meetings at each job don't conflict. I wonder how people get around that? 2. Many (most?) employers already have a "no moonlighting" clause, I wonder how long before there will there be explicit legal language stating you cannot have this full time job plus another full time job? 3. I believe there are a few places in the tax code where there is a difference between having a full-time job and a part-time job, are there any areas where you would have to lie to the govt when you have multiple full-time jobs?

goodcanadian 5y ago
3. I believe there are a few places in the tax code where there is a difference between having a full-time job and a part-time job, are there any areas where you would have to lie to the govt when you have multiple full-time jobs? Assuming US-centric. The one that comes to mind is your W-4 for each employer. If you fill it out correctly, it will be a big red flag to your employer. If you pretend like you only have the one job, it could potentially land you in trouble with the IRS as there will be nowhere near enough tax withheld. You might get away with it, anyway, as long as you paid taxes in full and on time, but you might have to pay taxes in installments. They don't like you to owe too much at the end of the year.
- TheCoelacanth 5y ago
  I don't think the W4 is really much of a red flag. Someone with two jobs won't look significantly different from someone who has a high-earning spouse. Both will need to add additional withholdings to avoid underpayment.
ethbr0 5y ago
If it's possible and profitable, there's someone out there who will do it. Which is the whole point of the legal system. Ironically, the hardest point would probably be post-detection cleanup. I guess the company would sue the individual for back wages on the basis of breach of contract?
db65edfc7996 5y ago
>I wonder how people get around that? Gotta take the kid/spouse/mom to school/work/doctor? Schedule these essential appointments to best overlap with the other company's favorite meeting slot. Additionally, I attend a number of meetings where I do not need to give any input. For many of those, who would know if I was simultaneously attending a similar meeting on a different laptop? You could even get fancy and have a pre-recorded version of yourself to play if you knew that you had to engage with company A but merely attend company B's meeting.
PragmaticPulp 5y ago
The only way I've seen this done in the real world requires the person to pick one primary job that always takes priority. The other job (or jobs) are targeted at companies that go out of their way to be super "nice" such that they won't question someone being constantly unavailable. Without giving too many specifics away, the one case I discovered was with a person who claimed to be dealing with some personal/health related issues that required us to be flexible with their schedule. If I'm being honest, it worked on us for a while because we're sympathetic, but eventually the underperformance crosses the line into something that requires medical leave / short-term disability, at which point they gave up.

goodcanadian 5y ago

3. I believe there are a few places in the tax code where there is a difference between having a full-time job and a part-time job, are there any areas where you would have to lie to the govt when you have multiple full-time jobs? Assuming US-centric. The one that comes to mind is your W-4 for each employer. If you fill it out correctly, it will be a big red flag to your employer. If you pretend like you only have the one job, it could potentially land you in trouble with the IRS as there will be nowhere near enough tax withheld. You might get away with it, anyway, as long as you paid taxes in full and on time, but you might have to pay taxes in installments. They don't like you to owe too much at the end of the year.

TheCoelacanth 5y ago
I don't think the W4 is really much of a red flag. Someone with two jobs won't look significantly different from someone who has a high-earning spouse. Both will need to add additional withholdings to avoid underpayment.

ethbr0 5y ago

If it's possible and profitable, there's someone out there who will do it. Which is the whole point of the legal system. Ironically, the hardest point would probably be post-detection cleanup. I guess the company would sue the individual for back wages on the basis of breach of contract?

db65edfc7996 5y ago

>I wonder how people get around that? Gotta take the kid/spouse/mom to school/work/doctor? Schedule these essential appointments to best overlap with the other company's favorite meeting slot. Additionally, I attend a number of meetings where I do not need to give any input. For many of those, who would know if I was simultaneously attending a similar meeting on a different laptop? You could even get fancy and have a pre-recorded version of yourself to play if you knew that you had to engage with company A but merely attend company B's meeting.

PragmaticPulp 5y ago

The only way I've seen this done in the real world requires the person to pick one primary job that always takes priority. The other job (or jobs) are targeted at companies that go out of their way to be super "nice" such that they won't question someone being constantly unavailable. Without giving too many specifics away, the one case I discovered was with a person who claimed to be dealing with some personal/health related issues that required us to be flexible with their schedule. If I'm being honest, it worked on us for a while because we're sympathetic, but eventually the underperformance crosses the line into something that requires medical leave / short-term disability, at which point they gave up.