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And what can be more wholesome than praising the Supreme Leader! (Or perhaps praising Supreme™!) Sorry about the flippant tone, but I hope we've learned that a
by sundarurfriend 5y ago
And what can be more wholesome than praising the Supreme Leader! (Or perhaps praising Supreme™!)
Sorry about the flippant tone, but I hope we've learned that any system like this operating behind closed doors can be and will be used for manipulation and (much more direct) profit-seeking.
And even before that happens, the idea itself is full of cultural bias, and so brings in cultural discrimination and the imposition of one culture's idea of wholesome/funny on the whole world, by its very nature.
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- TulliusCicero 5y agoOkay, but the previous status quo was abominable. "Don't read the youtube comments" was a well understood internet meme for a reason. This is a massive improvement on what came before. Maybe it could be better yet, but I haven't seen anything better myself for websites in a similar situation.
- marginalia_nu 5y agoMaybe Youtube just shouldn't have comments? Thinking about it, you're not really going to get discussions on a platform like that. Likes and similar, fine. Maybe evolve that. Maybe do the whole Dark Souls thing where you can only leave gestures and stock messages. Sure, you'll still get "try finger, but hole" and "amazing chest ahead", but that's still streets ahead of Youtube's communication.
- TulliusCicero 5y agoI mean the current setup seems fine to me. Yeah it's probably kind of a hugbox-y, and prioritizes simplistic comments like funny one-liners over anything insightful or deep, but that's not the worst thing in the world. I'm not sure they're adding much, but they don't seem to be taking away either.
- marginalia_nu 5y agoI think more as an alternative to the type of algorithmic censorship that they're doing now. I don't think we want a future where we have to mind how an algorithm might interpret what we say lest our communication will silently vanish.
- TulliusCicero 5y agoI think this is the kind of situation where HN commenters have decided that something has no value to them, therefore it must have no value generally and must be done away with. Obviously YouTube probably values having comments, but beyond them I’m betting creators do too. How do you respond to them wanting to keep comments?
- marginalia_nu 5y agoSince it's impossible to actually discuss with anyone (replies randomly vanish), I would ask what value they bring to anyone. You can create vanishing messages even without youtube providing the service. Write a comment on a piece of toiletpaper and flush it down.
- TulliusCicero 5y agoI suspect the answer would be that they do read many of the replies from fans, even if it's not all of them, and that this provides inspiration or just makes them happy. It probably also means people being more engaged with said youtuber if they feel like they can talk to them.