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> these companies have far more demonstrable ability to produce triple-A content I am not so sure. At least not for Bungie. I haven't enjoyed Destiny at all. W

> these companies have far more demonstrable ability to produce triple-A content I am not so sure. At least not for Bungie. I haven't enjoyed Destiny at all. Where on the other side, Arkane's Dishonored and Prey are quite good. So are id Software's Doom, Doom Eternal, and Wolfenstein. Fallout 4 was okay as well.

015a 5y ago
Sure; and the unfortunate reality is, Fallout 4 was released nearly 8 years ago. Dishonored: 10. Dishonored 2: 6. id definitely puts out super solid stuff, consistently. Arkane is also in that bucket (Deathloop is the better example to judge recent efficacy of the team, not Dishonored/Prey. And its great). But, that is counterbalanced by... Fallout 76? Warcraft 3 Reforged? The state of WoW, Overwatch, and Heroes? Xbox's acquisitions are a semitruck full of companies. The good parts of that truck are good. The bad parts are... quite bad. But the bad parts are built on really strong IP, which carried its own high price tag. So the question becomes; they'll definitely get value out of Arkane, id, and CoD, zero question there; but will they get value out of the rest of the ~$76B combined they spent, when so much of it is in glory-day IPs and not in teams, employed today, that can execute on that IP to deliver awesome content (no disrespect intended to the teams who do work on that content today; but reality is in the metrics, revenue, etc)? Comparatively: Microsoft bought a semi-truck, Sony bought a Miata. It's not the fastest car out there. It's not for everyone. But it has its users and there's no question as to Mazda's ability to put out another stellar model, nor question around whether customers will buy it. Plus: very affordable. Ok, that's a bad analogy.
- redisman 5y ago
  Warcraft and Diablo are still great IPs. Some of the best. If D4 will be good that can have staying power for a decade easily. Same with whatever RPG comes from the Warcraft universe next
- w4rh4wk5 5y ago
  > Fallout 4 was released nearly 8 years ago. Dishonored: 10. Dishonored 2: 6 This sounds like a long time, but it's not in game development. Putting out a solid title requires multiple years of development. > Deathloop is the better example to judge recent efficacy of the team Deathloop isn't on par with Arkane's previous games. It didn't even sell that well. They put it on sale a few weeks after launch to issue damage control.

015a 5y ago

Sure; and the unfortunate reality is, Fallout 4 was released nearly 8 years ago. Dishonored: 10. Dishonored 2: 6. id definitely puts out super solid stuff, consistently. Arkane is also in that bucket (Deathloop is the better example to judge recent efficacy of the team, not Dishonored/Prey. And its great). But, that is counterbalanced by... Fallout 76? Warcraft 3 Reforged? The state of WoW, Overwatch, and Heroes? Xbox's acquisitions are a semitruck full of companies. The good parts of that truck are good. The bad parts are... quite bad. But the bad parts are built on really strong IP, which carried its own high price tag. So the question becomes; they'll definitely get value out of Arkane, id, and CoD, zero question there; but will they get value out of the rest of the ~$76B combined they spent, when so much of it is in glory-day IPs and not in teams, employed today, that can execute on that IP to deliver awesome content (no disrespect intended to the teams who do work on that content today; but reality is in the metrics, revenue, etc)? Comparatively: Microsoft bought a semi-truck, Sony bought a Miata. It's not the fastest car out there. It's not for everyone. But it has its users and there's no question as to Mazda's ability to put out another stellar model, nor question around whether customers will buy it. Plus: very affordable. Ok, that's a bad analogy.

redisman 5y ago
Warcraft and Diablo are still great IPs. Some of the best. If D4 will be good that can have staying power for a decade easily. Same with whatever RPG comes from the Warcraft universe next
w4rh4wk5 5y ago
> Fallout 4 was released nearly 8 years ago. Dishonored: 10. Dishonored 2: 6 This sounds like a long time, but it's not in game development. Putting out a solid title requires multiple years of development. > Deathloop is the better example to judge recent efficacy of the team Deathloop isn't on par with Arkane's previous games. It didn't even sell that well. They put it on sale a few weeks after launch to issue damage control.