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Not OP, but I find your questions interesting. I find it intriguing that only in the digital age have we sort of decided that the creator of something doesn't

Not OP, but I find your questions interesting. I find it intriguing that only in the digital age have we sort of decided that the creator of something doesn't get to dictate the terms of its use. >3. What if you truly need to access a website but it has too many ads At least for me, I assume that they created the necessary content and get to decide how it's made available. It seems like only in the digital age do we even consider "I don't like your terms so I'm taking the content anyway" an option.

thewebcount 5y ago
> I find it intriguing that only in the digital age have we sort of decided that the creator of something doesn't get to dictate the terms of its use. Nonsense. Broadcast TV and radio are the same. I use a TiVo for broadcast TV and use the skip ads function.
- themacguffinman 5y ago
  TiVo is very much a part of the digital age, it's literally called a "Digital Video Recorder".
  - thewebcount 5y ago
    And before that I used a VCR and would fast-forward through the ads. And before that, I would hit the mute button and get up to use the restroom or grab a snack. Or I'd change the channel and hope I remembered to change it back in a few minutes.
WA 5y ago
Your printed newspaper can neither build a profile of you. Nor mine shitcoins. We have to consider this in the digital age, because in the analog world, ads have very limited impact.
HWR_14 5y ago
> I find it intriguing that only in the digital age have we sort of decided that the creator of something doesn't get to dictate the terms of its use. Except that's not true. Mark Twain and Shakespeare cannot tell you you're interpreting their works incorrectly. JK Rowlings cannot stop you from making paper mache out of her books. I can timeshift and spaceshift content with tape recorders, VCRs, TiVo and more.
- CubsFan1060 5y ago
  That may have been a poor choice of words on my part. I am struggling to come up with a better choice. I guess the analog would be “Ms Rowlings, I think the price of your book is too high, so I am going to pay you whatever price I want to. You don’t get a choice” Someone spent time and energy to create something, and decided that annoying ads are the price of their labor. People seem to think they now deserve the labor without the price that the creator has chosen. In almost all your scenarios they are predicated on having compensated the author in some way. Blocking ads is consuming the content without compensating the author in any way.
  - HWR_14 5y ago
    Then tying it to the digital age was a strange choice. People have infringed in copyrights since before electricity, operating manual printing presses to do so.

thewebcount 5y ago

> I find it intriguing that only in the digital age have we sort of decided that the creator of something doesn't get to dictate the terms of its use. Nonsense. Broadcast TV and radio are the same. I use a TiVo for broadcast TV and use the skip ads function.

themacguffinman 5y ago
TiVo is very much a part of the digital age, it's literally called a "Digital Video Recorder".
- thewebcount 5y ago
  And before that I used a VCR and would fast-forward through the ads. And before that, I would hit the mute button and get up to use the restroom or grab a snack. Or I'd change the channel and hope I remembered to change it back in a few minutes.

WA 5y ago

Your printed newspaper can neither build a profile of you. Nor mine shitcoins. We have to consider this in the digital age, because in the analog world, ads have very limited impact.

HWR_14 5y ago

> I find it intriguing that only in the digital age have we sort of decided that the creator of something doesn't get to dictate the terms of its use. Except that's not true. Mark Twain and Shakespeare cannot tell you you're interpreting their works incorrectly. JK Rowlings cannot stop you from making paper mache out of her books. I can timeshift and spaceshift content with tape recorders, VCRs, TiVo and more.

CubsFan1060 5y ago
That may have been a poor choice of words on my part. I am struggling to come up with a better choice. I guess the analog would be “Ms Rowlings, I think the price of your book is too high, so I am going to pay you whatever price I want to. You don’t get a choice” Someone spent time and energy to create something, and decided that annoying ads are the price of their labor. People seem to think they now deserve the labor without the price that the creator has chosen. In almost all your scenarios they are predicated on having compensated the author in some way. Blocking ads is consuming the content without compensating the author in any way.
- HWR_14 5y ago
  Then tying it to the digital age was a strange choice. People have infringed in copyrights since before electricity, operating manual printing presses to do so.