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How can something like this ever work out? If you're an okay-ish candidate and you hire someone better to do the interview, you might get away with it. But if y

by kabes 5y ago

How can something like this ever work out? If you're an okay-ish candidate and you hire someone better to do the interview, you might get away with it. But if you don't even know the basics of the job as the post claims...

icedchai 5y ago
If you're "interviewing" at an extremely large and likely dysfunctional organization, it can probably work out. You might get placed on a random team completely divorced from those you interviewed with. I've known guys who've taken jobs and done nothing for months and months. It's sad. I've also seen people quit after two days!
- kelnos 5y ago
  Yeah, I was thinking the same. In a big enough company, you can spend 3-6 months "onboarding" while drawing a paycheck and not having to do enough to get found out as a fraud. Even after the onboarding period, a skilled fraudster might find a way to blend in and hide if the circumstances are right. Or the company might have a policy (from legal) not to just fire people on the spot, but instead put them on a PIP and/or collect months of documentation of poor performance before doing letting them go. Even if they fail to last, they've still been drawing a paycheck for maybe 3-6 months (or more?), and that might be an acceptable "win".
markstos 5y ago
The person who showed up for work was described as "timid". Perhaps he hired a confident extrovert to do the interview, believing he'd be fine at the job once that stressful part was out of the way.
geodel 5y ago
I have seen these things closely. It kinda works out fine in big companies with large/slow IT departments. It takes ~3-6 months to figure out that person hired is not really up to task assigned. But still works in candidates favor because usually low level IT consultants are hired for 3/6 months + extension up to year or so. This means there is no point to proceed with firing that person as by then contract is about to be over. Also I do not have latest info on this. The stories I have are from 2006-2016 period. So maybe with agile and all it is no longer possible.

by kabes 5y ago

icedchai 5y ago

If you're "interviewing" at an extremely large and likely dysfunctional organization, it can probably work out. You might get placed on a random team completely divorced from those you interviewed with. I've known guys who've taken jobs and done nothing for months and months. It's sad. I've also seen people quit after two days!

kelnos 5y ago
Yeah, I was thinking the same. In a big enough company, you can spend 3-6 months "onboarding" while drawing a paycheck and not having to do enough to get found out as a fraud. Even after the onboarding period, a skilled fraudster might find a way to blend in and hide if the circumstances are right. Or the company might have a policy (from legal) not to just fire people on the spot, but instead put them on a PIP and/or collect months of documentation of poor performance before doing letting them go. Even if they fail to last, they've still been drawing a paycheck for maybe 3-6 months (or more?), and that might be an acceptable "win".

markstos 5y ago

The person who showed up for work was described as "timid". Perhaps he hired a confident extrovert to do the interview, believing he'd be fine at the job once that stressful part was out of the way.

geodel 5y ago

I have seen these things closely. It kinda works out fine in big companies with large/slow IT departments. It takes ~3-6 months to figure out that person hired is not really up to task assigned. But still works in candidates favor because usually low level IT consultants are hired for 3/6 months + extension up to year or so. This means there is no point to proceed with firing that person as by then contract is about to be over. Also I do not have latest info on this. The stories I have are from 2006-2016 period. So maybe with agile and all it is no longer possible.