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Have you heard about GNOME's Client-Side Decorations Initiative? The gist is that GNOME does not want to implement/maintain window decorations (title bars, mini

Have you heard about GNOME's Client-Side Decorations Initiative? The gist is that GNOME does not want to implement/maintain window decorations (title bars, minimize/maximize buttons) in their Wayland compositor, so instead (in typical GNOME fashion) they want every other Linux desktop app to add code to draw decorations themselves (in whichever style they want). https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/CSD https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/CSD

hulitu 5y ago
Then why do they want clients to use Gnome (indtead of other libraries) ? When every program does what he wants why do we need a "Desktop environment " ?
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Despite being one of the most powerful, well-funded projects in the desktop Linux space, the GNOME devs runs a notorious "my way or the highway" policy that consistently makes it increasingly difficult for smaller teams to develop their own desktops. Components like libadwaita, Flatpak, Wayland, and GTK4 only further contribute to this initiative. Don't just take my word for it though, ask anyone on Linux developing desktop apps: GNOME has been driving a wedge between developers for a while now.
- bcrl 5y ago
  Now you're starting to understand why some of us don't want to have Gnome anywhere near our Linux desktops when every bit of functionality that we actively use gets deprecated and removed. I loved my Linux desktop back in the early '00s when Gnome and Enlightenment provided configurable window decorations and transparent terminals, but all that configurability in Gnome has been hidden and then ripped out over the past 20 years of "progress".
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Three cheers for ostracizing your userbase and shrinking your development team down to an authoritarian handful of members that doesn't care about your opinions!

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Have you heard about GNOME's Client-Side Decorations Initiative? The gist is that GNOME does not want to implement/maintain window decorations (title bars, mini

by CyberShadow 5y ago

hulitu 5y ago
Then why do they want clients to use Gnome (indtead of other libraries) ? When every program does what he wants why do we need a "Desktop environment " ?
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Despite being one of the most powerful, well-funded projects in the desktop Linux space, the GNOME devs runs a notorious "my way or the highway" policy that consistently makes it increasingly difficult for smaller teams to develop their own desktops. Components like libadwaita, Flatpak, Wayland, and GTK4 only further contribute to this initiative. Don't just take my word for it though, ask anyone on Linux developing desktop apps: GNOME has been driving a wedge between developers for a while now.
- bcrl 5y ago
  Now you're starting to understand why some of us don't want to have Gnome anywhere near our Linux desktops when every bit of functionality that we actively use gets deprecated and removed. I loved my Linux desktop back in the early '00s when Gnome and Enlightenment provided configurable window decorations and transparent terminals, but all that configurability in Gnome has been hidden and then ripped out over the past 20 years of "progress".
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Three cheers for ostracizing your userbase and shrinking your development team down to an authoritarian handful of members that doesn't care about your opinions!