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In the same vein: https://i.imgur.com/y0xl11R.jpg https://i.imgur.com/y0xl11R.jpg

sp332 5y ago
I can't quite make out the text there. Does the first one say "don't put your name on the internet" and then the second one demands your name?
- hadrien01 5y ago
  The first one is the YouTube help saying "Never post things like your name" and the second one is the YouTube website saying "Start using your full name on YouTube", prefilled with your Google+ info.
- openknot 5y ago
  Yes, that's the essence of it. A high-resolution version appears upon clicking the image. Transcript for accessibility (2011): First red box: Safety Center, Protecting Your Privacy Second red box: Never post things like your name Third red box: Prevent privacy trouble before it starts. Once your privacy has been compromised, you might not be able to undo the damage. Fourth red box: Protecting your privacy means that you are taking care not to post personal information that could result in you being harmed over the [internet]. 2013 (no red boxes, but relevant elements are): Start using your full name on YouTube. How you appear now: 1337_megahacker [no profile picture] How you'll appear after: Lewis C. Skolnick From your Google+ profile [profile picture of person]. Two buttons appear at the bottom-right. "I don't want to use my full name" [colored similarly to background, de-emphasized] and "Next [blue background, emphasized].
  - dpark 5y ago
    > A high-resolution version appears upon clicking the image. Not for me. Maybe imgur does something different in mobile than desktop. Thanks for the transcription.
advisedwang 5y ago
And thankfully after much community and employee noise, they reversed that: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/16/youtube-trolls-google-real-name-commenter-policy https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/16/youtube-t...
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
I do believe their motivation for people using their real name / identity came from a push to prevent abuse - theory being that you'd be more careful of what you post online if it's under your own name. But in practice, it made people indifferent about what they say online.
- snowwrestler 5y ago
  I think it was actually tied to the integration of YouTube with Google Plus, which was intended to be a “real name” social network like Facebook.
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
I do believe their motivation for people using their real name / identity came from a push to prevent abuse - theory being that you'd be more careful of what you post online if it's under your own name. But in practice, it made people indifferent about what they say online. And of course, bots and malicious users will just use a fake name. The backlash that Facebook got when trying to force people to use their real identity, and to have their friends tell on them, must have been enormous - and likely lead to lawsuits, not to mention things like violence and death (think people trying to evade stalkers, trans people, etc.) (And before replying to that last statement, think about whether you're about to commit victim blaming)
syrrim 5y ago
https://i.imgur.com/y0xl11R_d.webp?maxwidth=2360&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium https://i.imgur.com/y0xl11R_d.webp?maxwidth=2360&shape=thumb...
tester756 5y ago
I disagree, its way more complex matter. Internet evolved from "that computer thing where you should avoid stranger and putting your real info" to something that's as important as infrastructure, we spend so much time in it that it is basically part of the world Facebook and similar pushed it

I can't quite make out the text there. Does the first one say "don't put your name on the internet" and then the second one demands your name?

hadrien01 5y ago
The first one is the YouTube help saying "Never post things like your name" and the second one is the YouTube website saying "Start using your full name on YouTube", prefilled with your Google+ info.
openknot 5y ago
Yes, that's the essence of it. A high-resolution version appears upon clicking the image. Transcript for accessibility (2011): First red box: Safety Center, Protecting Your Privacy Second red box: Never post things like your name Third red box: Prevent privacy trouble before it starts. Once your privacy has been compromised, you might not be able to undo the damage. Fourth red box: Protecting your privacy means that you are taking care not to post personal information that could result in you being harmed over the [internet]. 2013 (no red boxes, but relevant elements are): Start using your full name on YouTube. How you appear now: 1337_megahacker [no profile picture] How you'll appear after: Lewis C. Skolnick From your Google+ profile [profile picture of person]. Two buttons appear at the bottom-right. "I don't want to use my full name" [colored similarly to background, de-emphasized] and "Next [blue background, emphasized].
- dpark 5y ago
  > A high-resolution version appears upon clicking the image. Not for me. Maybe imgur does something different in mobile than desktop. Thanks for the transcription.

advisedwang 5y ago

And thankfully after much community and employee noise, they reversed that: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/16/youtube-trolls-google-real-name-commenter-policy https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/16/youtube-t...

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

snowwrestler 5y ago
I think it was actually tied to the integration of YouTube with Google Plus, which was intended to be a “real name” social network like Facebook.

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

I do believe their motivation for people using their real name / identity came from a push to prevent abuse - theory being that you'd be more careful of what you post online if it's under your own name. But in practice, it made people indifferent about what they say online. And of course, bots and malicious users will just use a fake name. The backlash that Facebook got when trying to force people to use their real identity, and to have their friends tell on them, must have been enormous - and likely lead to lawsuits, not to mention things like violence and death (think people trying to evade stalkers, trans people, etc.) (And before replying to that last statement, think about whether you're about to commit victim blaming)

syrrim 5y ago

https://i.imgur.com/y0xl11R_d.webp?maxwidth=2360&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium https://i.imgur.com/y0xl11R_d.webp?maxwidth=2360&shape=thumb...

tester756 5y ago

I disagree, its way more complex matter. Internet evolved from "that computer thing where you should avoid stranger and putting your real info" to something that's as important as infrastructure, we spend so much time in it that it is basically part of the world Facebook and similar pushed it