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That's pretty wild. Obviously you can do similar with straight up gdb and C programs, but does this sort of thing exist with other languages? I'd be fairly in

That's pretty wild. Obviously you can do similar with straight up gdb and C programs, but does this sort of thing exist with other languages? I'd be fairly interested in something like this for racket and ruby.

jeremya 15y ago
From a quick glance at the code, it looks like it is using gdb to call methods in the Python/C API. I agree, it is pretty neat.
packetlss 15y ago
Have you seen 'hijack'? https://github.com/ileitch/hijack https://github.com/ileitch/hijack
maxs 15y ago
Java (well, JVM) has method hotswapping. It's very useful for debugging and development. Because of static typing, you can't change classes to add new methods, but you can modify existing methods. (There is something called JRebel which does allow you to change classes but I find it a little hacky.)
dustingetz 15y ago
MS Detours[1] makes this easy in win32 processes. Stuff like this is useful for reverse engineers when prototyping hacks, security research, hooking kernel-level calls for e.g. packet filtering or AV, etc. Note that your run-of-the-mill antivirus will detect this, hacking processes in production is much harder. Here's an article describing how to do it by hand the naive way, they use minesweeper as the target: [2] [1] http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/detours/ http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/detours/ [2] http://uninformed.org/?v=1&a=7 http://uninformed.org/?v=1&a=7
pwg 15y ago
Tcl has had this capability for a very long time: http://wiki.tcl.tk/1055 http://wiki.tcl.tk/1055 Tkcon (http://wiki.tcl.tk/1878 http://wiki.tcl.tk/1878) makes use of the various methods Tcl provides to great effect.
praptak 15y ago
"Obviously you can do similar with straight up gdb and C programs" Yes, but it is a bit harder - unlike C, Python is designed to make things easily changeable at runtime.

4 ms·

That's pretty wild. Obviously you can do similar with straight up gdb and C programs, but does this sort of thing exist with other languages? I'd be fairly in

by burgerbrain 15y ago

jeremya 15y ago
From a quick glance at the code, it looks like it is using gdb to call methods in the Python/C API. I agree, it is pretty neat.
packetlss 15y ago
Have you seen 'hijack'? https://github.com/ileitch/hijack https://github.com/ileitch/hijack
maxs 15y ago
Java (well, JVM) has method hotswapping. It's very useful for debugging and development. Because of static typing, you can't change classes to add new methods, but you can modify existing methods. (There is something called JRebel which does allow you to change classes but I find it a little hacky.)
dustingetz 15y ago
MS Detours[1] makes this easy in win32 processes. Stuff like this is useful for reverse engineers when prototyping hacks, security research, hooking kernel-level calls for e.g. packet filtering or AV, etc. Note that your run-of-the-mill antivirus will detect this, hacking processes in production is much harder. Here's an article describing how to do it by hand the naive way, they use minesweeper as the target: [2] [1] http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/detours/ http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/detours/ [2] http://uninformed.org/?v=1&a=7 http://uninformed.org/?v=1&a=7
pwg 15y ago
Tcl has had this capability for a very long time: http://wiki.tcl.tk/1055 http://wiki.tcl.tk/1055 Tkcon (http://wiki.tcl.tk/1878 http://wiki.tcl.tk/1878) makes use of the various methods Tcl provides to great effect.
praptak 15y ago
"Obviously you can do similar with straight up gdb and C programs" Yes, but it is a bit harder - unlike C, Python is designed to make things easily changeable at runtime.