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Most of them are sort of silly, but it does have some options that make use of the "smartness". The manual is here: https://www.mieleusa.com/pmedia/ZGA/TX2070/

by tyingq 5y ago

Most of them are sort of silly, but it does have some options that make use of the "smartness". The manual is here: https://www.mieleusa.com/pmedia/ZGA/TX2070/10546880-000-01_10546880-01.pdf https://www.mieleusa.com/pmedia/ZGA/TX2070/10546880-000-01_1... Most of the smart stuff is in "settings" starting on page 64. Stuff like configuring it to run only during a low electric rate period (nights). Notifying you when filters need changing. Keeping track of detergent reservoir levels.

can16358p 5y ago
Honestly those are all welcome features for sure. The only problem is they gather too much data and call home. Not to mention this particular model/brand does it, but most do.
bmj 5y ago
My (non-internet connected) washing machine does this very thing. Why does an appliance need to be connected to a network to provide this functionality? So I can track it on my phone? As another comment pointed out, until these appliances can load themselves, I still need to be physically present at some point in time. An LED indicator can tell me to clean the filter or fill the cleaning reservoir, and I don't have to enter my WiFi information or download security updates.
- chasd00 5y ago
  if phone integration was the reason for it all couldn't it be done cheaper and easier over bluetooth? i think the only reason for inet connected dishwasher is stats gathering to help craft a more effective sales campaign for more dishwashers.
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
> configuring it to run only during a low electric rate period (nights) My dishwasher has a start delay function, basically the same... although if it's 'smart' I guess you could align it with things like a smart grid, highly variable rates, solar panels and battery. But that's something for the 1%. Filters is a double-edged sword, because since it's a consumable, it's in the manufacturer's interest to give false positives for the need to replace filters, like printer ink. Detergent reservoir levels, I don't know if that's a thing, mine has a reservoir for salt, but I have to put a detergent tablet in myself for every cycle. Would be convenient if it was built in, I guess.
foepys 5y ago
That's all the talking points those manufacturers give you but my dishwasher can do all of this with 2 buttons, a few LEDs, and a wheel for program selection. It even opens by itself so I don't need to be present when it's finished.

by tyingq 5y ago

can16358p 5y ago

Honestly those are all welcome features for sure. The only problem is they gather too much data and call home. Not to mention this particular model/brand does it, but most do.

bmj 5y ago

My (non-internet connected) washing machine does this very thing. Why does an appliance need to be connected to a network to provide this functionality? So I can track it on my phone? As another comment pointed out, until these appliances can load themselves, I still need to be physically present at some point in time. An LED indicator can tell me to clean the filter or fill the cleaning reservoir, and I don't have to enter my WiFi information or download security updates.

chasd00 5y ago
if phone integration was the reason for it all couldn't it be done cheaper and easier over bluetooth? i think the only reason for inet connected dishwasher is stats gathering to help craft a more effective sales campaign for more dishwashers.

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

> configuring it to run only during a low electric rate period (nights) My dishwasher has a start delay function, basically the same... although if it's 'smart' I guess you could align it with things like a smart grid, highly variable rates, solar panels and battery. But that's something for the 1%. Filters is a double-edged sword, because since it's a consumable, it's in the manufacturer's interest to give false positives for the need to replace filters, like printer ink. Detergent reservoir levels, I don't know if that's a thing, mine has a reservoir for salt, but I have to put a detergent tablet in myself for every cycle. Would be convenient if it was built in, I guess.

foepys 5y ago

That's all the talking points those manufacturers give you but my dishwasher can do all of this with 2 buttons, a few LEDs, and a wheel for program selection. It even opens by itself so I don't need to be present when it's finished.