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My understanding is that solid-state lithium ion batteries (which should roughly double capacity while also being much less fire prone) are likely to be the nex

My understanding is that solid-state lithium ion batteries (which should roughly double capacity while also being much less fire prone) are likely to be the next big thing with pretty much all major car manufacturers working on bringing them to market and the estimated timeframe being 2025-2030.

jabl 5y ago
From what I've understood LFP (also much less fire prone) is poised to be the next big thing. But maybe that's more in the short term and for "budget" models.
- axiosgunnar 5y ago
  does LFP stand for less fire prone?
  - jabl 5y ago
    LFP stands for LiFePO4, or lithium iron phosphate, a sort of battery chemistry. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery
- hvidgaard 5y ago
  It's cheaper but with less capacity, so I guess it's alright for the second car that is strictly used for commuting.
  - wbsss4412 5y ago
    Less energy density. Capacity is dependent on size of the pack. Notably it’s lower energy density by weight, but not substantially by volume.
    - hvidgaard 5y ago
      True, I was thinking about density. Unfortunately weight to size for an EV is complicated and more weight is not good.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  LFP is pretty much already here. It's mainstream enough that's it's shipping in Teslas. The catch is that while LFP is cheaper and less fire-prone than more traditional lithium ion batteries, it's less energy dense. So it's unlikely to be solving range issues any time soon.