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I can see why you might feel silly indicating on an empty road, but personally I find indicating to be such an integral and effortless part of turning or changi

I can see why you might feel silly indicating on an empty road, but personally I find indicating to be such an integral and effortless part of turning or changing lane that I always indicate even if I can't see anyone about. By comparison, when drivers are making judgement calls about whether it's necessary to indicate, I'm often suprised by their unexpected movements. This is particularly true as a pedestrian as some drivers seem prone to not indicating if there isn't another vehicle behind them.

ohgodplsno 5y ago
Absolutely. Indicate all the time, even when not needed. It trains you to indicate when it is definitely needed, and prevents me from having to yell at you because you suddenly jerked to the lane I was on without any warnings.
EliRivers 5y ago
"I always indicate even if I can't see anyone about." Well of course. "Nobody else is here" looks the same to you (and me) as "I haven't seen that other road user", and in the event that you haven't seen the other road user, the only chance they have is for them to take action and they really, really need the warning of your indicator lights.
furyg3 5y ago
I totally agree with you... but I disagree that the car should be the enforcer of this behavior (unless there is actual danger of hitting a barrier, other car, etc). Drivers should not have an adversarial relationship with their cars. On a winding two lane (same direction) mountain road with light snow and no traffic, it's silly to tell the car 'I am going to cross this stripe now' to avoid the car trying to steer me into the barrier. I am constantly driving on top of the lane lines to avoid snow, ice, minimize breaking, and generally drive smoothly so as not to put unneeded forces on a car in icy conditions. Edge case? Yes, but there are tons of them. Examples (imagine snowy conditions at night): https://goo.gl/maps/bs6wRGZNywz39RgD8 https://goo.gl/maps/bs6wRGZNywz39RgD8 https://goo.gl/maps/XHHkGx9xtg8y9UWt6 https://goo.gl/maps/XHHkGx9xtg8y9UWt6

ohgodplsno 5y ago

Absolutely. Indicate all the time, even when not needed. It trains you to indicate when it is definitely needed, and prevents me from having to yell at you because you suddenly jerked to the lane I was on without any warnings.

EliRivers 5y ago

"I always indicate even if I can't see anyone about." Well of course. "Nobody else is here" looks the same to you (and me) as "I haven't seen that other road user", and in the event that you haven't seen the other road user, the only chance they have is for them to take action and they really, really need the warning of your indicator lights.

furyg3 5y ago

I totally agree with you... but I disagree that the car should be the enforcer of this behavior (unless there is actual danger of hitting a barrier, other car, etc). Drivers should not have an adversarial relationship with their cars. On a winding two lane (same direction) mountain road with light snow and no traffic, it's silly to tell the car 'I am going to cross this stripe now' to avoid the car trying to steer me into the barrier. I am constantly driving on top of the lane lines to avoid snow, ice, minimize breaking, and generally drive smoothly so as not to put unneeded forces on a car in icy conditions. Edge case? Yes, but there are tons of them. Examples (imagine snowy conditions at night): https://goo.gl/maps/bs6wRGZNywz39RgD8 https://goo.gl/maps/bs6wRGZNywz39RgD8 https://goo.gl/maps/XHHkGx9xtg8y9UWt6 https://goo.gl/maps/XHHkGx9xtg8y9UWt6