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The difference is that we don't own the means of production either. We're still workers.

• vba616 5y ago
  Anyone who is a software engineer on HN surely is accumulating capital to retire some day and will likely succeed.
  • pjerem 5y ago
    > Anyone who is a software engineer on HN In the US.
    • vba616 5y ago
      I think there is such a thing as retirement outside the US. I thought that pensions are more common, as a matter of fact. You almost have to be a government employee to have a pension these days, in the US.
• rightbyte 5y ago
  But we do own the means of production. Unless you have no personal computer or think the Jira instance we all are forced to use is necessary for coding. =)