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I used the words "balanced diet" to rule out, for example, someone eating only fruits and nothing else. I hedge my words carefully because I don't want to make
by commoner 5y ago
I used the words "balanced diet" to rule out, for example, someone eating only fruits and nothing else. I hedge my words carefully because I don't want to make overly broad claims that are not backed by evidence, as you are doing. I do understand what you are talking about, and I have been pointing out that some of your claims are contradicted by or not supported by evidence.
You're accusing me of all kinds of things without providing a single piece of evidence to back up your claims. You're also putting words in my mouth that I never said, and claiming I take positions that I don't support. For example, I never recommended oat milk (which is not a whole grain product), honey (which is classified by the FDA as added sugar when not sold as a single ingredient), or breakfast cereals (which are often sold sweetened with added sugar and usually not whole grain). That is a straw man.
I agree that people who are consuming too many calories in their diet should reduce the amount of calories that they consume. However, that has nothing to do with the fact that fruits can be part of a healthy diet, which is backed by evidence from a wide body of research and not contradicted by any evidence that fruits are unhealthy for most people. If fruits are unhealthy for most people as you claim, you should have no problem finding peer-reviewed research of similar or higher quality that backs up your assertion.
Here's yet another review that confirms that fruit consumption has stronger anti-obesity than pro-obesity effects in most cases, which also explains why supplements and soda are not equivalent to fruits:
> Previous studies of the effects of fruit on obesity have shown that their anti-obesity effects are greater than their pro-obesity effects in most cases, as demonstrated in this review. Moreover, the final outcomes of these anti-obesity studies support the inclusion of higher amounts of fruit in our daily food intake to reduce weight, as well as promote a healthy life style by increasing physical activity and reducing the intake of sugar and fat. However, most types of fruit contain large amounts of simple sugars, which are well-known contributory factors to obesity and obesity-related diseases. Therefore, the high level intake of particular forms of fruit such as fruit juice is not advisable in certain age groups, especially children. In addition, it has been suggested that plant fiber and phytochemicals may be responsible for the anti-obesity effects of fruit, but cereals are also rich in phytochemicals and fiber yet they have no remarkable anti-obesity effects. Therefore, more human trials are required to address these two mechanisms. In addition to the possible anti-obesity mechanisms discussed above, we consider that various other important unknown components present in fruit may be responsible for preventing obesity. Furthermore, the anti-obesity properties of known fruit components need to be verified. Thus, future research should be focusing on identifying anti-obesity components in fruit as an urgent and important task in order to understand the scientific mechanism of obesity but also to develop a method for controlling obesity by increasing fruit consumption.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5084020/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5084020/