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The Trump admin closed the borders with China in late January and was accused of being racist and exaggerating the risk by news media and the Democrats. In fact

• tootie 5y ago
  None of this is true. Biden and Harris both said they feared political interference in the approval process and would not trust Trump's assurances. That's evident from your own links. That's entirely justified by his constant lies about almost everything but especially covid. They both explicitly endorsed approvals from the medical experts. He was never branded as racist over the travel restrictions, but rather over his overt racism. Things like derisively calling it the Wuhan Flu. Trump, in fact, is the one who lied about Biden's criticism. https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_8df18b2a-26ab-4d33-ba13-2c4a4e45b23c https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_8df18b2a-2... And Fauci was clearly expressing surprise at British regulatory process, not casting any doubt on the vaccine efficacy since Fauci had already endorsed the vaccines in question. Here's a pretty thorough breakdown of the dozens of explicit lies Trump told specifically about covid and covid policy up until election day https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/11/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/11/trumps-...
  • 0xy 5y ago
    By calling the vaccine "rushed" and implying it can't be trusted, they sowed vaccine doubt and encouraged anti-vaccine ideologues. I posted the receipts, they repeatedly questioned whether the vaccines could be trusted -- publicly, often. You say my claims are untrue, yet you don't provide counter evidence that they did not claim the vaccines were "rushed" or could not be trusted. That'd be very hard to prove, since it's plastered all over media :) >He was never branded as racist over the travel restrictions Yeah, that's false. [1] He used the word "xenophobia" in direct response to the border closures. >Things like derisively calling it the Wuhan Flu Very dishonest argument, considering even NPR used this terminology early in the pandemic. [2] CNN, which you cite, also used this terminology. [3] You must appreciate the irony of you claiming this terminology "derisive", while citing outlets who use the very same terminology, right? >And Fauci was clearly expressing surprise at British regulatory process You didn't refute my claim that he called it "rushed", which he did. Calling vaccines "rushed" is anti-vaccination disinformation. [1] https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1223727977361338370 https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1223727977361338370 [2] https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/01/30/800393906/your-questions-about-wuhan-coronavirus-answered https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/01/30/8003939... [3] https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/05/health/wuhan-coronavirus-flawed-report/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/05/health/wuhan-coronavirus-...
    • Yoric 5y ago
      > Yeah, that's false. [1] He used the word "xenophobia" in direct response to the border closures. I've watched the debate on this specific quote from Europe. I don't know how it was meant but I read it as "Please stop calling this the Chinese virus" (or something such, I don't remember the exact terminology adopted by Trump at the time). Seen from Europe, the way that Trump called it was indeed... surprising. Everybody else (in our media) called it "the coronavirus" or "covid". I'll take your word that everybody was using that term in the US, I don't follow CNN or NPR. Took me some time to realize why US Conservatives understood that tweet as branding closing travel from China as racist. Now, I remember that closing travel from China was very much criticized, but for other reasons: - the way it was implemented was extremely porous (you only needed to change plane anywhere on the way and you could get into the US), so this travel ban was guaranteed to have very little impact on circulation of the disease; - actual policy didn't block travel from China, as US citizens (and I think several other countries, if my memory serves) could take a plane from China to the US. - numbers from China closing internal travel showed that it had delayed the epidemic by ~24h, if my memory serves, so epidemiologists kept warning that it wouldn't solve anything but were drowned in the media circus; - epidemiologists were begging for quarantines to be implemented – they weren't. In other words, that travel ban was basically security theater. > Calling vaccines "rushed" is anti-vaccination disinformation. Have to agree with you on that one. Fortunately, I believe that this didn't last.
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